A look at what's going on in Trinidad, on H Street, and in the larger area north of Capitol Hill.

Tuesday, June 27, 2006

Rebuilding Place: Mid-Block Crosswalks

Rebuilding Place in the Urban Space features this post suggesting mid-block crosswalks on H Street. The 1300 block, being a particularly long block, does seem especially conducive to jaywalking.


Anonymous omar said...

I brought this up a while ago, but DDOT has indicated these cross-walks are a no go for H Street. I thought it would be a great addition to the streetscape design, but DDOT was adamant about not going in this direction.

Jun 27, 2006, 9:48:00 AM

Blogger Richard Layman said...

I got the same reaction. However, given the forthcoming PUD application for the 600 block, it could be revisited there...

Jun 27, 2006, 11:35:00 AM

Blogger jason said...

Why doesn't DDOT want to go in this direction?

Jun 27, 2006, 11:54:00 AM

Blogger jason said...

Why doesn't DDOT want to go in this direction?

Jun 27, 2006, 11:55:00 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about diagonal crosswalks? There were diagonal crosswalks on F Street downtown until perhaps the late 80s. They are a great symbol of hearty pedestrian and commercial activity.

Jun 27, 2006, 6:59:00 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think anyone would pay attention to mid-block crosswalks and people would be routinely run down by speeding, veering cars. H St has a way to go before it's Vermont or Austria.

Jun 27, 2006, 11:15:00 PM

Anonymous Kristie said...

What good would it do? Nowhere in the city will cars slow down or stop for pedestrians in the crosswalk. The police don't help: I've seen more jaywalkers ticketed than cars that have nearly run pedestrians down.

Jun 28, 2006, 9:56:00 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

F street, in the 1300 block downtown has a mid block cross walk and it's great. I use it daily and haven't been run down by a speeding or veering car yet...last time I checked the 1300 block of F St isn't in Vermont or Austria.

Jun 28, 2006, 9:58:00 AM

Anonymous eck said...

The 1300 F St NW crosswalk has a traffic signal. Rather a different kettle of fish.

But there are 1 or 2 mid-block crosswalks (sans signal) where traffic actually stops. As I commented yesterday on Richard's blog, the 400 blocks of E and F NW (north and south of the police memorial) have mid-block x-walks. Amazingly, I find that traffic (on E St, anyway) invariably stops for me even if I'm standing at the edge of the x-walk waiting to see what the cars will do.

Jun 28, 2006, 1:21:00 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, the midblock crosswalk on F does have a light - that's the only way to do it on a busy street such as F NW and H NE. I don't think anyone would stop for a midblock crosswalk on H Street if it wasn't controlled with a signal.

Jun 28, 2006, 3:07:00 PM

Anonymous eck said...

The traffic in the 1300 block of F St NW is actually pretty calm, thanks to the Treasury Building & the White House. IMHO, H St -- a through street used as a commuter corridor -- is a hell of a lot busier & more dangerous for pedestrians.

Jun 28, 2006, 3:50:00 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I jaywalk the 1300 block all the time. No cars have hit me! haha. But seriously, a traffic light mid-block would definitely do the trick. Luckily, when the 14th St southbound traffic has the green, relatively few of them seem to turn right onto H (because that is where Florida headed eastbound dumps into H, hence traffic turning right off of 14th essentially just made a U-turn). In light of this, a wary crosser has little to fear from oncoming traffic if the 14th St traffic has the light.

Jun 28, 2006, 6:29:00 PM

Blogger Richard Layman said...

When I wrote the post, I specifically mentioned the midblock crosswalk on the 1300 block of F St. NW , which has a light. Same with the photo I show from Seattle. Yes, on H Street, where the cars routinely drive very very very very fast, having a midblock crosswalk without a traffic signal would be like screaming "make me roadkill."

Oh, wrt DDOT. I don't know, I didn't query. Plus I am trying to "manage" how vocal I get with them, to be able to use social capital on other issues.

I suspect they have some standard rule that disallows such. I guess the issue would be why did they do it on the 1300 block of F St. NW, which likely is the same long distance (although it seems shorter) than the 1300 block in the eastern quadrants.

Jun 30, 2006, 11:00:00 PM


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