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Tuesday, June 27, 2006

Rebuilding Place: Mid-Block Crosswalks

Rebuilding Place in the Urban Space features this post suggesting mid-block crosswalks on H Street. The 1300 block, being a particularly long block, does seem especially conducive to jaywalking.

13 comments:

omar said...

I brought this up a while ago, but DDOT has indicated these cross-walks are a no go for H Street. I thought it would be a great addition to the streetscape design, but DDOT was adamant about not going in this direction.

Richard Layman said...

I got the same reaction. However, given the forthcoming PUD application for the 600 block, it could be revisited there...

jason said...

Why doesn't DDOT want to go in this direction?

jason said...

Why doesn't DDOT want to go in this direction?

Anonymous said...

What about diagonal crosswalks? There were diagonal crosswalks on F Street downtown until perhaps the late 80s. They are a great symbol of hearty pedestrian and commercial activity.

Anonymous said...

I don't think anyone would pay attention to mid-block crosswalks and people would be routinely run down by speeding, veering cars. H St has a way to go before it's Vermont or Austria.

Kristie said...

What good would it do? Nowhere in the city will cars slow down or stop for pedestrians in the crosswalk. The police don't help: I've seen more jaywalkers ticketed than cars that have nearly run pedestrians down.

Anonymous said...

F street, in the 1300 block downtown has a mid block cross walk and it's great. I use it daily and haven't been run down by a speeding or veering car yet...last time I checked the 1300 block of F St isn't in Vermont or Austria.

eck said...

The 1300 F St NW crosswalk has a traffic signal. Rather a different kettle of fish.

But there are 1 or 2 mid-block crosswalks (sans signal) where traffic actually stops. As I commented yesterday on Richard's blog, the 400 blocks of E and F NW (north and south of the police memorial) have mid-block x-walks. Amazingly, I find that traffic (on E St, anyway) invariably stops for me even if I'm standing at the edge of the x-walk waiting to see what the cars will do.

Anonymous said...

Yes, the midblock crosswalk on F does have a light - that's the only way to do it on a busy street such as F NW and H NE. I don't think anyone would stop for a midblock crosswalk on H Street if it wasn't controlled with a signal.

eck said...

The traffic in the 1300 block of F St NW is actually pretty calm, thanks to the Treasury Building & the White House. IMHO, H St -- a through street used as a commuter corridor -- is a hell of a lot busier & more dangerous for pedestrians.

Anonymous said...

I jaywalk the 1300 block all the time. No cars have hit me! haha. But seriously, a traffic light mid-block would definitely do the trick. Luckily, when the 14th St southbound traffic has the green, relatively few of them seem to turn right onto H (because that is where Florida headed eastbound dumps into H, hence traffic turning right off of 14th essentially just made a U-turn). In light of this, a wary crosser has little to fear from oncoming traffic if the 14th St traffic has the light.

Richard Layman said...

When I wrote the post, I specifically mentioned the midblock crosswalk on the 1300 block of F St. NW , which has a light. Same with the photo I show from Seattle. Yes, on H Street, where the cars routinely drive very very very very fast, having a midblock crosswalk without a traffic signal would be like screaming "make me roadkill."

Oh, wrt DDOT. I don't know, I didn't query. Plus I am trying to "manage" how vocal I get with them, to be able to use social capital on other issues.

I suspect they have some standard rule that disallows such. I guess the issue would be why did they do it on the 1300 block of F St. NW, which likely is the same long distance (although it seems shorter) than the 1300 block in the eastern quadrants.