Wednesday, July 29, 2009

BYT: The Pie Man Cometh

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Dangerously Delicious Pies is taking over the white building.

Brightest Young Things reports that Baltimore's Dangerously Delicious Pies will open a location at 1339 H Street (Jumbo's old spot). Brightest Young Things reports that the H Street location will offer the same menu that is already available at the Federal Hill location. In 2008 Dangerously Delicious Pies was named Baltimore's Best Pie by the Baltimore City Paper. Sweet! For those who lack a sweet tooth, Dangerously Delicious also does savory pies.

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sweet! Anyone hear of anything coming in West of 12th Street? Seems like 10-12 are ripe for more developing.

Dolemite said...

Sweet Jesus!!

Anonymous said...

Isn't there going to be a new pizza place on the corner of 13 and H? Former Moo's or something?

JJ said...

Wow,

Just when I was going through withdrawal for the lack of development since HSCC we get word of a pie joint! I love it!

Maybe they can throw in some dangerously delicious bagels and coffee too. Now that would be potent trifecta right there...

Anonymous said...

This is another add plus for the corridor.The guy is major in a big way.The pies are over the top with unique fillings , great crust and a rocking venue.I hope that the same quality and energy is duplicated the same as the Baltimore Location.The owner was just featured on the food Network with Paula Dean.Also, another bonus for our corridor is near the RED & The Black next to Philadelphia Ice.There is a new Greek resturant.From the looks it,seems to be a nice space with high ceilings,exposed bricks,bold colors,and a out door patio.In speeking with the owner they are looking to by the end of summer.


5th street

Rob said...

Streetcar: I'm looking at a laminated flier that says "Why is this streetcar, owned by DC taxpayers, in the Czech Republic instead of running on DC's streets?"
"Attend an important meeting on Thursday August 6 and ask DC Transit officials to tell you when you can expect to see streetcars serving riders on H Street and Benning Road!"
"Please Attend an important meeting with Gabe Klein, DC's Transportation Director, and community members to discuss the H St-Benning Road streetcar line."
"ANCs 5B, 6A, and 6C will host this public meeting"
When: Thursday, Aug 6th 7:00pm
Where: ATLAS Performing Arts Center, 1333 H St. NE

"Also, please visit this website: http://streetcars4dc.org/?page_id=50 where you can quickly and easily contact your elected officials and 'Speak up for Streetcars!'"

Rob said...

I really wish it was possible for just a "normal" business like Sweets and Treats to survive. It seems you have to build out your place, have the hip buzz, and cater your product to the high-end customer to succeed.
The business climate seems to be such that new businesses on the street need to target upper middle class people w/ extra money to burn on gourmet hoagies and pies, and $10 Martinis.
Anyone disagree? The Pug is a counter-example. It's interesting. Any others?

Anonymous said...

Every time that I go to Sweet & Treats, they are closed and look like they have been closed for a while. Too bad if that is true.

I think that there just isn't enough foot traffic yet on that side of the street, so folks don't know that it's there.

Campy said...

in reply to Rob:

Fresh food and beer are two things that I try to enjoy every day. Sweets and treats are on the other end of that list.

Maybe its as simple as that until more people not like me start patronizing the local businesses.

That, and the economy/construction are probably in the conversation as well.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

every time i go into sweets & treats there's never anything in stock. I don't get it. I've been in there a couple of times this year and always end up leaving right away wondering what happened to all of her food..

DCJaded said...

I would have to agree on the criticism of Sweets and Treats. I tried it a few times, but the last 2 times they had no stock and the ice cream was really old. I would give it another try, but a small business like that has to keep up their end.

tarisdaddy said...

Yea owning and running your own business, seems like it's no joke, though i've never done it or considered it, it seems to me you have to live it, be there and be open 24-7 -365, and that may still not be enough. I really admire those who put themselves out there and try to will these forays into being your own boss a success.

The places that seem to be sticking around have willed themselves to succeed by being open no matter what, and offering a unique experience. we actually have a scene here in what was formely the arm pit of the district. H street is on the map and evening attracting businesses from exotic locations like B-more , there's room for everyone it seems, though all of these places aren't neccessarily going to make it.

Sweet and Treats is a special case. I am proud to see a new African American/Black Owned business open as part of the new activity on the H.

I would have gone there this evening if I would have remembered the place. After a moderatly priced but more than i want to spend on dinner every night meal at HSCC it would have been nice to spread it around a little to a place that's doesn't seem to be enjoying as much of the new gentrfying dollars that can be found in the Atlas district these days as some of the other places. I simply forgot the place was there and thought of treats from my own frige instead.

Maybe i was just full and buzzed from dinner and drinks at HSCC and didn't want to drop anymore cash. My kid tends to not forget dessert but didn't mention it either (she's mostly trained not to ask for stuff). We've actually been to S&T several times and thought it was ok (but declining more and more on subsequent visits. Tonight we just forgot it was there or assumed it wasn't open and kind of put it out of our minds.

I think this speaks in part to the experience of going there which has been Ok as i said. But we've tried to go back and the place just isn't consistenly open and has declined as i mentioned, and i fear that it's gone or will be soon. So i think you need a little somethin extra to create a buzz about your place in order to create a memory and so you customers will return because of more than something than just sentimental connections. The ok places may not always make it other wise. It's sad to see it happen, so much promise.

Still I hope S&T can hold on, it's cool seeing three generations of women getting it done (or trying to) with bake goods and treats, they remind me of my own family during the hoildays. It seems that a lot of love and hard work has gone into the place. If they were just open consistently and made more of an impression than maybe who knows.

enough.


They should follow Horice and Dickies model.

inked said...

To take this a bit more abstract it sounds like the beginning of an interesting discussion (perhaps a future post) on how (and what kind of) retail/food/bar establishments make it in a commercial district that is still developing. In terms of what businesses get play on the blog, I generally either hear about stuff from people that are plugged in (Frank from Sova provides a lot of info because everyone goes there for coffee and stops to chat), or people send me stuff. I'm happy to give any functional local business a little boost in the community awareness department. I also try, within my time limitations, to seek out other businesses. Many of you know that I also write a column for the Hill Rag. I try, in that column, to highlight both old, and new businesses. Sometimes that is harder than it sounds because (much as I hate to admit it) there can be a divide between old and new businesses. If you know of a business on H Street that hasn't gotten much press, but is a decent business, send me a review. If everything looks good, I'll either publish it and give you credit, or cover the spot myself. If you are an owner, or employee, please disclose that. Any owner/employee, is also welcome to send me an email asking me to check out their spot. There's a big Corridor out there, let's explore it.

inked said...

4:28,
that used to be the Sun and Moon, now it is slated to become an Angelico's Pizzeria.

Chris Metzler said...

Yeah, I don't mean to pile on re: Sweets & Treats, but I really really wanted the place to succeed. I *don't* want all the businesses on the east end of H to be hipster-type joints. I was really excited when S&T opened. And the first few times I went there, my experiences were really good. But then, it went downhill. I'd go there and they wouldn't have much stuff to sell. One example: for several months, I'd go in every few weeks to try and get a milk shake, and they couldn't do it because they didn't have any milk -- for *months* they didn't have milk. And so eventually the place lost mindshare with me -- I literally started forgetting it existed. I can't remember the last time I thought about it, before it was mentioned in this discussion. Which is a bummer.

Rob, I do think there's room for places that aren't "hip" or high-end. But they still have to have something that brings you in. The Pug's popular despite being outside the "$10 martini" category, as you say; but if the Pug were out of beer on a regular basis, it wouldn't be very popular.

npm said...

I've been to Sweets and Treats a few times for cake or ice cream when I've passed by. It's pleasant, the cake was decent, and the prices very reasonable, but it's nothing that I'd travel for (even from my home near the east end of H St.) In contrast, Taylor's is worth a special trip. And I think there isn't enough foot traffic yet for places that aren't worth the trip to do well. (Of course, once there is enough traffic, the rent will go up and places like Sweets will have to raise their prices...)

Inked - One business you could cover for your column is S&S Shoe Repairs. I've used them several times. Prices are substantially lower than the place at Union Station, and they generally do a good job. (I do have to mention that one time when they repaired a broken strap on my wife's sandal, it resulted in a bumpy sole, so she had to toss it.)

Rob said...

I appreciate all the thoughtful comments in response to mine. To Inked: one interesting question is who is the "you" in "have to have something to bring you in"? Definitely agree w/ that statement, though.
My biggest problem w/ Sweets n Treats was/is that getting into my mid 40s I just can't afford to go to an ice cream shop/bakery to eat sweets as often as I go to a coffee shop and put Splenda in the coffee :-) The pounds pile on too quickly!

Anonymous said...

I am so very excited, this is a VERY good thing. i admit i've driven to baltimore just to buy these pies.
-Patrick

Anonymous said...

Regarding Sweets & Treats, I don't think you can blame HstNE. The last time I went there it looked like a bomb went off. Dirty dishes and food everywhere. I think the owner has given up.

You can't make someone have a successful buisiness.

poo poo said...

if you don't know how to run a business, your business will fail.

duh.

Tom A. said...

I really want S and T to succeed. But it's dingy- the TV is always blaring, and they never have any cookies? I wish they would at least TRY to be a successful business. I've left there screaming "My kingdom for a cookie!"

I finally tried Philly Water Ice. Nice people. But their product didn't excite me at all. Not sure who would get excited about shaved ice with flavored sugar on it. I'm not sure if they have ice cream also, but they should get some quick! And cookies.

inked said...

NPM,
S&S has been on my radar for a while. They'll definitely be in the column soon.

ibc said...

if the Pug were out of beer on a regular basis, it wouldn't be very popular.

That's the bottom-line. You can't disrespect your customers--whether the disrespect is intentional or not.

That's why you keep regular hours, show up during those hours, and actually keep stocked up on the things you have on your menu.

There was a period where Taylor wasn't answering their phone..at all. It would just ring and ring, and no one would ever answer.

I know that wasn't intentional, and I don't hold it against them, but I *have* been ordering less from them. We're just starting to give them another shot.

Customers are a fickle bunch.

Anonymous said...

It really made me mad when I went to Sticky Rice on July 3rd and they were closed. Before I went I checked their website and it said nothing about being closed. Then I called them and their message said that they were closed for Memorial Day. I thought they just forgotten to update there answering machine.

When businesses fail to respect their customers they will fail. Is Sticky Rice getting so comfortable that they can act like other low rent businesses on HstNE?

Hillman said...

Closing with no warning is very much a DC thing. It literally shocks my friends that aren't from here.

What shocks them even more is that we think it's normal.

ro said...

I also had high hopes for sweets and treats, but let's face it, the owner needs a bit of help on presentation. I thought about being bold and giving her some advice and then I remembered that Seinfeld episode where he convinces the restaurant owner to start selling Pakistani food, so I kept my mouth shut.

on one hand it’s sad that businesses need a gimmick or some sort buzz or vibe to reel in the customers like HCCC, Taylor or Granville's, but alas that is the reality. I was at S&T last week and the place was a cluttered mess, there were no cakes in stock expect a few slices in the fridge that looked like they may have been sitting around for a few days. the owner is always nice and i want her to succeed, but I feel like she may not really understand how to market her business.

Richard Layman said...

it comes down to the fact that there is too much retail space in terms of what is supportable strictly within the neighborhood.

The rough figure I use is that it takes 30,000 people to support 50,000 s.f. of retail. (This is the rough size of a small supermarket anchored neighborhood strip center.)

H Street, including Hechinger Mall, has 1,000,000 s.f. of commercial space.

Entertainment districts are supported regionally. The trick is to balance what is offered so that the people from outside help support what would not otherwise succeed on its own just on the basis of neighborhood/area business.

It's not easy.

Plus I think there are significant demographic differences in terms of spending money out-of-home on prepared food. And it skews younger (as you get older you tend to eat home more) too.

Anonymous said...

Hillman: I was born in DC and have been back living here for 14 years, and I'm not sure what you're talking about. Where are you going? It happens so much out of town friends comment on it? I'm not saying it never happens, but I've lived in Philly and Portland, and it happens. Not that it matters, but I love when people take a few examples and then label.

Anonymous said...

This is great news.

As for Sweets and Treats, maybe we can sign them up to be on the Peter Perfect show http://www.mystyle.com/mystyle/shows/peterperfect/index.jsp

inked said...

I walked past Sweets and Treats yesterday and someone was working on it. The place was is disarray and I asked if everything was ok, and if they planed to reopen. He said everything was fine, but that they did not plan to reopen.