tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post1375772744797454745..comments2024-02-14T06:26:09.116-05:00Comments on Frozen Tropics: Don't Forget Tuesday's Streetcar MeetingUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-56542470427018066332013-03-02T10:40:45.739-05:002013-03-02T10:40:45.739-05:00I wish they would cut out the stops at 3rd, 5th, 1...I wish they would cut out the stops at 3rd, 5th, 13th and 19th streets. <br /><br />Union Station, 8th street, 15th street and Oklahoma Avenue -- 4 stops will make it better, certainly no need for 8 stops over a distance less than 2 miles (most people should be able to walk more than 1/8th of a mile). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-32909586770970979942013-02-28T10:57:23.865-05:002013-02-28T10:57:23.865-05:00I view it as a positive that the streetcar isn'...I view it as a positive that the streetcar isn't planning to stop every ten feet like some of the busses in the neighborhood do (thinking of the 90 series as previously mentioned, as well is the D4 in certain stretches). Walking three blocks isn't a big deal and having less frequent stops keeps things moving along. adlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-63386504797590983412013-02-28T10:09:54.836-05:002013-02-28T10:09:54.836-05:00I also thought it was "interesting" that...I also thought it was "interesting" that the closer you were to the western terminus of the streetcar at Hopscotch Bridge the closer together the stops were (where you can much easier walk to the end of line). As get further away and in the middle of the streetcar line the stops are more spread out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-56722598421130405632013-02-27T17:51:43.984-05:002013-02-27T17:51:43.984-05:00Lets just say the bus holds 60. That's still l...Lets just say the bus holds 60. That's still less than half of a streetcar. Streetcars will increase capacity on an already overcrowded line. <br /><br />And remember folks, divide by two the number of blocks between two stops....that's the furthest you are from a stop. Five block gap equals 2.5... You're never more than 2.5 blocks away from a stop in that "gap"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-43247094426299472952013-02-27T16:57:35.373-05:002013-02-27T16:57:35.373-05:00That gap between 8th & 13th isn't so bad. ...That gap between 8th & 13th isn't so bad. First, there are several X2 stops between those five blocks (the streetcar is not supposed to duplicate the X2's route). Also, those five blocks, especially the 900 and 1000 block, aren't terribly long. I've run after the X2 after missing it at the old stop in front of Granville and caught up to it at 8th St.<br /><br />As for this: "A streetcar holds 144 people, a bus holds 35."<br /><br />Sir or mam, there's no way those double decker X2's hold only 35 people. In fact, even on the single x2 buses, with folks standing there have got to be 50-60 people in there.<br />Alan Pagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07349389379428110815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-85823126418182052512013-02-27T15:57:09.634-05:002013-02-27T15:57:09.634-05:00@ Anon 3:25 -
The "gap" is only five b...@ Anon 3:25 - <br /><br />The "gap" is only five blocks, surely that isn't too much. It's basically 2.5 blocks from either stop to a destination in the middle.<br /><br />One thing that frustrates me with MetroBus is that stops are too close together, especially on the 90s lines. You stop, go a block, stop, go a block, stop... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-71643125593219990652013-02-27T15:25:38.227-05:002013-02-27T15:25:38.227-05:00Thanks for the link to last night's material. ...Thanks for the link to last night's material. I've been to some community meetings on the streetcar, however, it wasn't until just looking at the link that I realized there is no streetcar stop between 8th & 13th Street...a decent chuck of distance in a prime bulk of H Street. I obviously missed something somewhere, but does anyone have a general insight into the decision to have such a gap? Thanks...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-31633008850214048102013-02-27T14:24:02.896-05:002013-02-27T14:24:02.896-05:00Here is a link to the meeting materials:
http://...Here is a link to the meeting materials: <br /><br />http://www.dcstreetcar.com/h-benning-project-library/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-76290517382383239122013-02-27T12:19:05.224-05:002013-02-27T12:19:05.224-05:00Annoyingmous wrote: "You must be new here. We...Annoyingmous wrote: "You must be new here. Welcome to NE DC."<br /><br />Yes, it was my first meeting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-21731263479117153712013-02-27T11:45:59.065-05:002013-02-27T11:45:59.065-05:00Anon 11:04 wrote: "The Q&A was frustrati...Anon 11:04 wrote: "The Q&A was frustrating in a sense that those who opposed the streetcar just spoke up without any regards to being called on like everyone else."<br /><br />You must be new here. Welcome to NE DC.<br /><br />Annoyingmousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-20786213773386227522013-02-27T11:04:57.213-05:002013-02-27T11:04:57.213-05:00Went to the meeting. A very diverse crowd which wa...Went to the meeting. A very diverse crowd which was noted by the meeting's moderator. The meeting was basically a walk-through of what work would be done this year to get the streetcars rolling by the end of the year. <br /><br />There were only 15 minutes allotted to Q&A which allowed for about 6 questions to be asked before the meeting was broken off into breakout sessions.The breakout sessions addressed in more depth each task that must be completed this year in order to get the street cars rolling.<br /><br />The Q&A was frustrating in a sense that those who opposed the streetcar just spoke up without any regards to being called on like everyone else. Wish more people who supported the streetcars were able to ask more questions in the meeting as a whole. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-30752804548883198942013-02-27T10:00:36.626-05:002013-02-27T10:00:36.626-05:00Any update from those that attended the meeting? ...Any update from those that attended the meeting? Thanks!SustainableDCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-39283935010244397432013-02-27T09:32:42.065-05:002013-02-27T09:32:42.065-05:00For those of us with sick kids keeping us tied to ...For those of us with sick kids keeping us tied to home, can someone sum up what DDOT had to say last night?<br /><br />Thanks in advance.Kenny Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-41829669005755442582013-02-27T08:59:58.909-05:002013-02-27T08:59:58.909-05:00I specifically bought in the H Street area back in...I specifically bought in the H Street area back in 2007 anticipating the future streetcar line. The house I bought had been boarded up for years and was in dire need of a full renovation; a few more years sitting vacant and the house would have collapsed.<br /><br />What I got? A solid investment and new home in a great neighborhood with great neighbors.<br /><br />What the city got? Taxable income (I moved from Virginia); increased real estate taxes; increased sales taxes (I do 90% + of my shopping in DC); and an active citizen.<br /><br />What brought me to this area? The future streetcar line and the current/future development associated with it. Had the X2 been the only option, forget it, I and my tax dollars would have stayed in Virginia. And the neighborhood would have had a collapsed house to contend with.<br /><br />Like poopoo's story, take it for what it's worth.<br /><br />DC investment in the streetcar system is more than just another transportation option for a growing area, it's the city investing in itself.Future Streetcar Ridernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-62375596631167685192013-02-27T06:46:14.631-05:002013-02-27T06:46:14.631-05:00A streetcar holds 144 people, a bus holds 35. I pl...A streetcar holds 144 people, a bus holds 35. I plan to use the street car daily, get me to Union Station and I can get to anywhere in the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-88733311538775546262013-02-26T16:56:34.531-05:002013-02-26T16:56:34.531-05:00i have lived in dc since 1995, and ridden a bus tw...i have lived in dc since 1995, and ridden a bus twice. <br /><br />however, i will ride a streetcar.<br /><br />oh, i also grew up going to private schools.<br /><br />true story. take it for what it is worthpoopoonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-33238827984033624142013-02-26T16:04:51.443-05:002013-02-26T16:04:51.443-05:00Buses probably solve most of the problem. However,...Buses probably solve most of the problem. However, many people dont/wont ride buses for whatever reason. Most people who live on H St now use buses and probably don't need the streetcar. But for the people who dont come here or come here infrequently because they don't ride buses and don't want to use a cab, the street car will bring them here more often and make living here more appealing. It's stupid but that is the way it isDave Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-82723355663841820852013-02-26T16:04:46.682-05:002013-02-26T16:04:46.682-05:00The H Street Trolley is foolish and costly in the ...<i>The H Street Trolley is foolish and costly in the time economic uncertainty and the Federal Government (the major employer for the Dist/Md/Va) approaching furloughs and budget cuts</i><br /><br />I think they call them "streetcars" these days. Are you from the past?oboenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-83454643713619562332013-02-26T15:50:58.951-05:002013-02-26T15:50:58.951-05:00Except Circulator buses don't have the same ca...Except Circulator buses don't have the same capacity as a streetcar vehicle nor do they encourage the type of development that the street car line can (and has).<br /><br />The buses-only argument is shortsighted and isn't backed up by the numbers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-1927254079636806812013-02-26T15:28:24.244-05:002013-02-26T15:28:24.244-05:00I'm in agreement with those who think the stre...I'm in agreement with those who think the streetcars are great waste of taxpayer money. Let's just write off expenses to date / not spend good money after bad. Circulator buses are perfect for H St, and to connect it to other locales. How about a circle Circulator route from Union Station, along H St, Benning Road to East of the River and backAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-34772916511636334602013-02-26T15:14:27.489-05:002013-02-26T15:14:27.489-05:00Calvin,
If the streetcar line is enough to make s...Calvin,<br /><br />If the streetcar line is enough to make shortsighted people like you move to Virginia, then please, go. And don't look in the rear-view mirror.<br /><br />The streetcar system will increase transit use, economic development, and tax revenue. If you can't see that, then you belong in "forward-thinking" Virginia.Not Calvinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-45549325416475300742013-02-26T12:50:08.913-05:002013-02-26T12:50:08.913-05:00Hey, some people have a strong attachment to the n...Hey, some people have a strong attachment to the nightmarish hellscape that is Benning Road beyond 17th Street or so.<br /><br />oh wellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-36992134918677686342013-02-26T11:09:03.664-05:002013-02-26T11:09:03.664-05:00to paraphrase calvin:
"This is a waste of mo...to paraphrase calvin:<br /><br />"This is a waste of money. It will only make the surrounding area better."<br /><br />Oh well, good thing DC has a 400 million dollar surplus or somethingdave Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-8961879202435886252013-02-26T08:09:13.302-05:002013-02-26T08:09:13.302-05:00Calvin et al, public transit projects are ALWAYS a...Calvin et al, public transit projects are ALWAYS about development first, and transit second. Historically, developers actually PAID for them to sell homes and businesses to the masses. The trolley companies were private businesses paid for for with private dollars.<br /><br />If you feel so strongly, I hope you'll come to the meeting tonight.Tom A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10417553647538474302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8835710.post-43720013478931921932013-02-25T23:35:14.894-05:002013-02-25T23:35:14.894-05:00Calvin, you are exactly right, my brother! And, as...Calvin, you are exactly right, my brother! And, as an H street gentrifier, I hope that you are the only one who has caught on to this nefarious scheme, so that I may maximize my profits at the expense of the truly deserving citizens of this city on a hill. Now I'm off to polish my Mason's ring. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com