The historical function (and its primary function today) is as a wholesale market (I'm talking here more about the Capital City Market as a whole, not so much the farmers market portion)so the places open early so that restaurants and shops can buy there. Accordingly, many of the places open between 4am and 6am each morning. When you do go, don't expect things to be quite as user friendly as Eastern Market. It can take a little while to get the lay of the land, but it's worth it after you figure things out. You may also want to check out Litteri's (517 Morse) if you like Italian stuff.
look. litteri's got their niche a long time ago. the market is geared towards wholesale for restaurants, etc.
basically, it's a market geared towards selling in bulk toward retailers.
i've been here for a few years, and i can tell you that the 'wholesalers' will sell to an individual at wholesale prices. sometimes even less, if you know how to bargain.
and.. i didn't need a "tour" to figure that out. why? because i explored on my own. and as such, i didn't have to follow some group mentality.
i'm not saying the tours are great for the yuppies moving in to the area. they are fantastic - for the yuppie crowd that doesn't know how to venture and see for themselves.
inked is doing a great job at introducing them to the amazing market that we have.
she's also introducing folks with vision. folks that will help to determine the future of the market.
it's a double edged sword. the more you expose the place, the more yuppies will want to develop the place. and that includes long time residents that want their property values to go up, so they can sell and move to the burbs.
i know we all have these lofty ideas for the market. fact is, the more exposure they get, the more savvy yuppies say, "yeah litteri's is cool, but a trader joes would be cooler". and then you wonder if they own the premises (they don't), and then you figure out how to take their good idea, and make it better. it's like darwin's law. the strong survive.
it's time to give up on the vision the florida market will be like the meat market in ny.
it won't.
dc is playing a catch up game with cities that fall into the same category. and as such, it's a rush to make good for the 'now'.
if you know about real estate escalation, you'll dig what i'm saying.
real estate values are far ahead of what they should be. so the folks buying real estate have the money to play the game. those folks don't want a junkyard in their backyard. the market is going to go the way of those that have the $$ to make it happen the way they like.
and that's not a cool little korean market, near the place some high school kids were shot.
it's a total redevelopment they want.
and they have the bucks to make it happen.
not the hippie want to be's.
(which actually will be sell outs in the next ten years)
just get with the program and make sure that the new developments have some affordable housing (which they even have in compexes in georgetown), and some businesses that cater to the populous. trader joes is one of those, btw.
people on this list freak me out. they want to have a dynamic neighborhood, and they want their property values to increase, but they want to keep it ghetto at the same time.
trust me, yuppie-wanna-be-hippies, once you get robbed or raped, you'll change your tune.
i know that there are folks that look to other cities and the way they've incorporated a merge of the old and new. layman does that well, as do others. but this is dc. get a grip. you folks that grew up in the burbs, and are dying to save the craphole of NE are just not going to have a say.
better to get on board and work w/the new architectural plans of the bldgs. that will be built.
Look Anonymous 7:56, I just came from the Pug with friends. It's a nice bar, and I hit the H Street places pretty regularly. Sorry if I don't have a nightly bar review, but I really don't have the time to hit bars every night. I go to Sidamo, the Argonaut, and the other spots often. I'll go again tomorrow night.
As for the Market remarks, it isn't yuppies that are currently threatening the Market. It's John Ray and Mr. Choi. Just because this is DC doesn't mean thing need to be crap. I've never lived in a suburb of anything, and I don't particularly want to live in one. I like K-Young's, and I doubt you've been. It isn't, by the way, a market, but a restaurant. And I'm not hoping the Market turns into NY's (now dying) Meatpacking District. I'd rather see it become something like the Italian Market (located in Philadelphia), because that place is a real market that has retained its grit, but still has managed to enlarge its appeal. I think the New Town proposal might fail. Only time will tell.
You got a lot of spunk and I like that, but maybe you can direct some of the energy you've devoted to several postings on this blog (also assuming it's the same GUY) toward volunteering in the neighborhood you're so concerned about. Next time you feel the urge to let loose on the keyboard railing against yuppies and what not, maybe you can run out to H and pick up some trash or something.
Just curious. Are you down with the H Street Connection and the equally bad "new" development across 8th where the Foot Locker is? If so, then gawd help us if you have any say in how things are developed in NE. If not, then I think you can see where people like Inked are coming from. DC has a tendency to wipe out historic buildings and unique neighborhood landmarks like the market to make way for much trumpeted new development that sucks rotten, stinking pig feet (usually because folks charged with looking out for the neighborhood's interests are getting a nice piece of the action). All indications are this "New Town" development will be more of the same old DC crap in that respect. After seeing development with no vision spring up in places like the Rhode Island Metro, people are finally getting hip to the program and even sicker of the NE DC development as usual mentality.
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What are the hours of the farmers market? I went by yesterday after work and it was all closed up.
their hours are not 'retail' friendly. in other words, they don't cater to people dropping by after work.
in a nutshell, that's part of the reason it'll be razed and the vendors kicked out. hopefully, that'll happen sooner rather than later.
if you really must check the place out before it's gone, you might want to try going there early morning on a weekend.
The farmers market closes at 4pm. Most of the other places close at 3pm. The farmers market is open sundays, but everything else is closed on Sundays.
The historical function (and its primary function today) is as a wholesale market (I'm talking here more about the Capital City Market as a whole, not so much the farmers market portion)so the places open early so that restaurants and shops can buy there. Accordingly, many of the places open between 4am and 6am each morning. When you do go, don't expect things to be quite as user friendly as Eastern Market. It can take a little while to get the lay of the land, but it's worth it after you figure things out. You may also want to check out Litteri's (517 Morse) if you like Italian stuff.
look. litteri's got their niche a long time ago. the market is geared towards wholesale for restaurants, etc.
basically, it's a market geared towards selling in bulk toward retailers.
i've been here for a few years, and i can tell you that the 'wholesalers' will sell to an individual at wholesale prices. sometimes even less, if you know how to bargain.
and.. i didn't need a "tour" to figure that out. why? because i explored on my own. and as such, i didn't have to follow some group mentality.
i'm not saying the tours are great for the yuppies moving in to the area. they are fantastic - for the yuppie crowd that doesn't know how to venture and see for themselves.
inked is doing a great job at introducing them to the amazing market that we have.
she's also introducing folks with vision. folks that will help to determine the future of the market.
it's a double edged sword. the more you expose the place, the more yuppies will want to develop the place. and that includes long time residents that want their property values to go up, so they can sell and move to the burbs.
i know we all have these lofty ideas for the market. fact is, the more exposure they get, the more savvy yuppies say, "yeah litteri's is cool, but a trader joes would be cooler". and then you wonder if they own the premises (they don't), and then you figure out how to take their good idea, and make it better. it's like darwin's law. the strong survive.
it's time to give up on the vision the florida market will be like the meat market in ny.
it won't.
dc is playing a catch up game with cities that fall into the same category. and as such, it's a rush to make good for the 'now'.
if you know about real estate escalation, you'll dig what i'm saying.
real estate values are far ahead of what they should be. so the folks buying real estate have the money to play the game. those folks don't want a junkyard in their backyard. the market is going to go the way of those that have the $$ to make it happen the way they like.
and that's not a cool little korean market, near the place some high school kids were shot.
it's a total redevelopment they want.
and they have the bucks to make it happen.
not the hippie want to be's.
(which actually will be sell outs in the next ten years)
just get with the program and make sure that the new developments have some affordable housing (which they even have in compexes in georgetown), and some businesses that cater to the populous. trader joes is one of those, btw.
people on this list freak me out. they want to have a dynamic neighborhood, and they want their property values to increase, but they want to keep it ghetto at the same time.
trust me, yuppie-wanna-be-hippies, once you get robbed or raped, you'll change your tune.
i know that there are folks that look to other cities and the way they've incorporated a merge of the old and new. layman does that well, as do others. but this is dc. get a grip. you folks that grew up in the burbs, and are dying to save the craphole of NE are just not going to have a say.
better to get on board and work w/the new architectural plans of the bldgs. that will be built.
don't waste your time being a martyr.
nuff said.
oh.. and this is for inked...
don't respond tonight.
it will be clearly evident that your hanging at home instead of patronizing all the amazing places on h street.
wait till tomorrow to try to find some rationale fot your dichotomous approach to this area.
not saying that you don't care.
but... your prioties are much askew.
Look Anonymous 7:56,
I just came from the Pug with friends. It's a nice bar, and I hit the H Street places pretty regularly. Sorry if I don't have a nightly bar review, but I really don't have the time to hit bars every night. I go to Sidamo, the Argonaut, and the other spots often. I'll go again tomorrow night.
As for the Market remarks, it isn't yuppies that are currently threatening the Market. It's John Ray and Mr. Choi. Just because this is DC doesn't mean thing need to be crap. I've never lived in a suburb of anything, and I don't particularly want to live in one. I like K-Young's, and I doubt you've been. It isn't, by the way, a market, but a restaurant. And I'm not hoping the Market turns into NY's (now dying) Meatpacking District. I'd rather see it become something like the Italian Market (located in Philadelphia), because that place is a real market that has retained its grit, but still has managed to enlarge its appeal. I think the New Town proposal might fail. Only time will tell.
Anti-white, yuppy, hippy wanna-be crusader 7:56:
You got a lot of spunk and I like that, but maybe you can direct some of the energy you've devoted to several postings on this blog (also assuming it's the same GUY) toward volunteering in the neighborhood you're so concerned about. Next time you feel the urge to let loose on the keyboard railing against yuppies and what not, maybe you can run out to H and pick up some trash or something.
Just curious. Are you down with the H Street Connection and the equally bad "new" development across 8th where the Foot Locker is? If so, then gawd help us if you have any say in how things are developed in NE. If not, then I think you can see where people like Inked are coming from. DC has a tendency to wipe out historic buildings and unique neighborhood landmarks like the market to make way for much trumpeted new development that sucks rotten, stinking pig feet (usually because folks charged with looking out for the neighborhood's interests are getting a nice piece of the action). All indications are this "New Town" development will be more of the same old DC crap in that respect. After seeing development with no vision spring up in places like the Rhode Island Metro, people are finally getting hip to the program and even sicker of the NE DC development as usual mentality.
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