As previously noted in the comments, the Clothing Cafe (1240 H Street -->the former home of Elite Motors) is now up and running. No word on if they are offering food.
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Apparently there will be no food here (it was only a rumor). They will, however be serving free coffee and tea to patrons.
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56 comments:
which building is it in?
The one on the right (with the sign [might be hard to read in the photo] that says "Clothing Cafe").
I can't wait to try the turtleneck soup.
or the hungarian golashes!
I'm Sorry but if they want to attract people to these places they have to spend a just a little bit more money fixing/cleaning up these places...
I like the concept of the now closed Pish tea cafe, but you couldn't offer me a free meal from there just based on the cosmetics of the place..
Sorry- I live in the nabe and lon for the day i can go sit down and eat a meal in a establishment...
They can clean and fix up these places, without getting rid of the character of the buildings...
Phish Tea died a slow death because word soon got out that the service was terrible. I understand the owners were quite nice and worked really hard, but you have to offer decent service, where the food comes out in a reasonable manner and your server at least pretends to be glad to see you.
Well it sure wasn't going to get my business based on the it looked.
The one and only time I visited Argonaut? I just leaving after eating my dinner and nearly got into a fight with the RATS that were outside the front...
They had their own little posse...
Hillman touches on what seems to be the biggest problem that most of the non-Englert businesses have. The service really wasn't there. The potentially departed RibTip suffered from this. I want to enjoy neighborhood dining but I'm not going to settle for substandard service from a sit down restaurant. The people running Sidamo get this as the service there is a good as you'll get anywhere else in the City.
isn't there an h street non profit that could provide free training in entrepreneurism or customer service?
I don't think we have a non-profit like that. I would also have to say that I think the service at Sidamo is better that what you get in most DC coffee shops. Phish Tea I thought looked pretty good, but the service was awful everytime I was there (except for one really nice bartender the one time I went in just for a drink, but even that time they couldn't make the drink I ordered because all the ginger ale was in a two liter bottle that was flat). I believe the concept behind the Clothing Cafe is that it is a clothing store that also sells food. But, I haven't been inside, so I can't attest to what's actually in there.
Also, my photo of the Clothing Cafe is old.
What sort of permits does a place need to have to be able to sell food and clothing in the same place?
I love that it's an original concept, but I wonder if it can actually do both and not run afoul of health inspectors or some other official body.
Not sure about permits, but its not really completely an original concept. Check out Simply Home on U Street: http://www.simplyhomedc.com/simplyhome/reopen.html. Still its outside the box.
I'm also told that there is a place in Georgetown that does the same thing. It does sound like a hard sell, but then so did the Martini Lounge in the beginning.
Boogie's Diner sold clothing and food on Wisconsin Ave. back in the 1980s or early 1990s. It closed even before Merry Go Round (the parent chain) went out of business.
Phish Tea was fine in terms of the interior, it was the service-value-price equation.
The issue isn't providing training on customer service. If businesses out there want the service it's there. Mostly they don't want the assistance.
I did a walk through of Phish Tea before they opened, and identified certain problems (lack of dishwashing equipment, size of restaurant vs. size of kitchen, etc.).
I also communicated the problems expressed after they opened. I ended up being criticized for being negative.
It's difficult helping independent businesspeople because they are independent for a reason...
I ate at Phish Tea once; I couldn't imagine going back. The service I had wasn't good, but wasn't completely awful. But the food was not good, and the prices were absurd.
I too long for some sort of sit-down restaurant. Hopefully someday.
i think businesses should be forced to take some kind of training in customer service before they're given a permit.
and it should be provided by someone for free, so they don't claim some kind of cash hardship.
get you're crap together, dc....
Part of this is our own fault.
For too long we've put up with really bad service. Especially on the Hill. I think it comes from decades of having very few options and having a lot of Hill businesses treat us as a captive customer base..... one they could just foist any old crap on.
We really need to start complaining when we get bad food or service. Tonite I ordered out from a long-standing Hill restaurant. The chicken wings I got were burnt so black that they were crunchy nearly all the way to the bone. There's simply no way they didn't notice that when they sent them out. They just didn't care, because we as Hill consumers never complain.
I think it shocked the restaurant when I called them back and told them about the problem and told them, politely but firmly, that I found it actually personally offensive that they would knowingly serve crap to a longstanding customer.
But there's a fine line between complaining legitimately and just being an ass. Running a restaurant is very hard, and minor screwups are bound to happen.
It's only when I feel like the restaurant is taking my business for granted that I think it's time to complain.
Hillman hit the nail on the head with the term "captive customer base". We end up patronizing the lowest quality places just because there's nothing else - especially in emerging corridors. I think we can all come up with a few establishments around the Hill that we frequent simply because there's nothing else. Think of your favorite place on H St. for instance. Now think, would you go there if the place was in NY or Chicago? Probably not because there would be too many other choices that offer a substantially better product for a better price - a result of competition that doesn't exist around these parts. It's frustrating that the best tasting most blogged about item at a popular neighborhood joint is a deep fried, over priced (fill in the blank) from the Sysco truck. After eating/drinking at a place on the Hill my wife and I can't help but to critique in detail. One question we always ask each other is "would you return if we were in Boston?" The answer is usually "no". And Hillman, yeah, I'm sure that restaurant was shocked when you complained about your wings. We're not likely to complain because 1) It wouldn't likely bring change 2) we don't like to discourage people who are investing in our community.
The potentially departed RibTip suffered from this.
Really? I thought the service at RibTip was pretty good, just the food sucked. Even so, I'm surprised that they went "tips up" so quickly though.
Phish Tea Cafe was amazing in its bad service; the one time I went there the waitress tried to get us to order at the hostess stand. Unreal!
I'm really looking forward to the opening of Sticky Rice.
I think there are a number of places on the Hill that are great, and do fine in other cities (Monmarte, Belga, and Tunnacliffs for lower price), it's just the places aroung H St. are so far mediocre. I frequent the Engler bars pretty regularly, but mostly because I can walk to them and I want to support H St. But not one of them has decent food, and while I know the buildings are small, not being able to get a decent draft beer stinks.
Hey Hill rat, I think you are the first person to publicly admit that the food sucked at Rib Tip. Again, we don't like to criticize people who open up a restaurant in our community - we're that desperate to have options! I brought an out of town visitor to Jimmy T's once and it was packed, we finally got a seat and at the end of the meal my friend declared that that was the filthiest restaurant with some of the worst food he had experienced since his return from the peace corp.
This was before we had Sidamo.
Now that place should be a model for anything else that opens up on H St!
Anonymous 3:57p-
How can you say that not one of the Englert bars on H st has good food?! The Argonaut has some of the best damn pub food in town! Their sandwiches are excellent, and they have the best sweet potato fries I've ever tasted. They have draft beer too. So quit your whining and join us for a pint at the Argonaut!
Yeah, the Argo food isn't half bad. When they have it. There's no need to air a laundry list of things on the Argonaut menu that I've ordered and they've been out of what I wanted. Including potatoes during breakfast, in spite of being 4 blocks from Safeway. And trying to get what I ordered how I ordered it at breakfast is pretty much a lost cause, so I just accept what they give me - it's usually good enough. Although an 8 dollar omelet on 14th and H still seems excessive to me.
I really like the discussion that this post has started, but I want to hijack this thread for a minute to bring it back to its original purpose.
I took a walk down to the Clothing Cafe today around 1PM. I wanted to see what was going on for myself.
As it turns out, the "cafe" in the title should be silent. The place has no intention of serving food, according to the woman working behind the counter. They will be offering complimentary coffee and tea to their patrons, but she told me that they have no intention of serving food of any kind.
Clothing Cafe is actually just a clothing shop. Their primary focus at the moment is t-shirts, including a tight-neck ringer style for $5.
Although I'm thrilled to have another open storefront, I'm a little sad to find out this one's just going to be a clothing store and not something more ambitious.
I also poked my head into Granville Moore's and Sticky Rice on my walk.
GM's looks like they're approaching 'go time' - they've got tables, chairs and stools set up and a delivery of glassware stacked in the entryway, though their "Biergarten" still needs some work to be ready for customers. Looks like they're going to have some iron benches and a nice-looking wooden door leading to the alley out the back. I would say they're probably only two or three weeks from opening, barring any big obstacles.
Sticky Rice, unfortunately, seems quite a bit further from readiness. They've still got all that ductwork sitting inside the front door, and they haven't made a lot of progress. There's some new hardware piled up in there (doors, screens, etc.), but it seems like they've got a lot of hard work ahead of them before they can start rolling the maki.
Thanks for the clarification Mike. Sorry about the food misinformation (came from the place's name and conversation with some guy while waiting for the bus). Glad to hear they are up and running smoothly.
Hill Rat:
I have to sortof admire the balls (in a gender-inspecific reference) on a waitress that would try to get you to order from the waitress station.
A good example of a restaurant being forced to get it's act together is Dakota Cowgirl (formerly Hamburger Marys), on 14th St NW. When they opened the service was stunningly bad. People cut them a break for a while because they REALLY wanted a restaurant in that area, but patrons started complaining en masse after a while.
A lot of people took the owner aside and told him frankly what the problems were.
The owner, a really nice guy, eventually fired most of his service staff and concentrated really hard on customer service.
The result - a dramatically better restaurant, with a very loyal clientele.
Customer service is a HUGE problem in DC, not just on the Hill (but I think it's especially bad on the Hill). I've got several friends that have travelled extensively throughout the US and the world. Each one of them tells me that by and large DC has the worst customer service of nearly any city they've spent much time in.
Thank god somebody finally said that Jimmy T's sucks!
Jimmy T's is great for it's snarly and funny waitstaff, but I do agree the food is pretty ordinary. I thought Rib Tip had the best breakfast food I've had anywhere on the Hill but it took an hour to get it. And the place was pretty empty. I never had lunch there... maybe that's the bad food the ealier post mentioned. I never went back only because I can't wait an hour for some eggs and bacon.
And I know people want a restaurant but I'm glad to see some new retail coming. If H Street is to be any kind of daytime destination, we need more than bars and restaurants. I sort of thought the clothes and food idea was a little cheesy and a bit unsanitary somehow.
Its kind of sad, I've gotten much better service in the suburbs than I've gotten in DC proper. I wanted to like R&B Coffee but I remember getting spoiled milk for my coffee on one occasion.
For a contrast, go out to dinner in Arlington and then try something in our neighborhood.
Big eater says:
The food at the Argo is really good. I think a lot of the people on this blog really don't go out that often and are the ultimate in arm-chair quaterbacks.
I really appreciate all the info I get on this blog. I must agree with most of the comments here. I have lived in the neighborhood for a few years and actually loved Phish Tea, mostly because it was an actual sit down restaurant in the area. I actually found the wait staff to be a problem (I even got a friendly email from a bartender there after I hadn't been around in a few weeks, is that a bad sign?), but the food was always mediocre at best.
However since they have closed, I haven't found anywhere to sit down on H st to eat. I went to the rib tib 4 times before they were finally open when i showed up (11:30 AM on a saturday to get some brunch), and was told that breakfast was over, and lunch would start in a half hour. I was amazed, how could you turn a customer away in the middle of the day??? Does transitioning between meals really take that long?
I really hope that we get some sit down places that I can comfortably bring friends and family to and show off our neighborhood. I think a place with good food, a nice environment, and good customer service would do really well on H st. And it would be wonderful if we got some places that were reliably open and had normal hours (why is everything closed all day sunday? That's a day when i have time to enjoy a meal out). Sidamo is great, I go there often, but with such a limited food menu its not really the answer.
Here's to sticky rice being that place and opening soon!
I like the Argonaut, but the food and service is often bad. For example, Wednesday night:
At 9 PM (or so) we ordered chips+salsa, a mushroom burger, and calamari. This was after waiting 20 minutes or so in the bar area to get a beer.
The chips and salsa (no cooking involved) came through at a bit after 10 PM. Neither are particularly good, compared to what other places offer.
The mushroom burger came at 10:15, at which point we were informed that the Argonaut was out of calamari. The burger was lukewarm and seemed to be uncooked.
The bill for a frankly terrible meal and a couple beers was a bit above $50.
I'm just not sure what to say about that. I like the Argonaut (I especially like the catfish po' boy, but it's not exactly good for you) and I like the idea of supporting what's currently the only local sit-down option, but what am I supposed to do when 1/2 of the time I go there, the food is junk, the kitchen is slow and incompetent, the service is inattentive, and it ends up costing twice as much as a better experience somewhere else in town?
From the comments on FT, it seems like there are a good number of us who spend a good amount of time and money on H St. on drinks and food and are too often dissatisfied with what we get. What can we do about this? I like the idea of sending my business to places that get it right, but there's no restaurant in that league yet.
SO what can we do other than trade war stories and work up frustration?
Suck it up!! We have to keep going to these places because if they failed, then other businesses wouldn't come to H St. And to everyone that raves about the food at the Argonaut - you must be eating shit on a stick for breakfast if you enjoy dinner at the Argh. I frequently go to the Argh, but stay away from the food. Also, have you tried the "Cajun Food" at the R & B? Good lord - they have got to be kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!! When it was served to me, I was sure there was a hidden a camera and it was all a joke...then I considered that they were trying out as a venue for the next Fear Factor taping. I still drink there however.
Suck it up? Listen, I've worked in the restaurant business, and I know it's not easy, but when you just straight up don't have things that are on your menu on a regular basis, that's some next level screw up.
grossdog - Unfortunately the only thing any of us can do other than complain is to open a restaurant ourselves. Since there's no way in Hell that I'm opening a restaurant, I have to content myself by trying to convince Todd Thrasher to open his next venture in the Capitol Hill/H St. area. I have also pleaded with the owner of the Amsterdam Falafel Shop to grace the Hill with his presence.
Amsterdam Falafel shop rocks!!! Dang, if we could get something like that on H St., I promise, God, I will never complain about the food on H St. again!
Of course we blog about only the negative experiences. But, then, that's the nature of the internets tubes.
I'm of mixed opinions about Argonaut. I love what the owner is doing for H Street. And I know it ain't easy opening any business on H, much less a restaurant.
I probably don't go as much as many of you. I've been maybe ten times total. Several times I've had delicious food. Last time I had some sort of crabby shrimpy thing that was dang tasty. But even that wasn't quite right. They gave me the sandwich version, not the dinner version, after I had been pretty specific about wanting the dinner version. And mine came a good 15 minutes after my dinner partner's meal was served. This, when there were about six tables total there.
And I've had the reverse - where we've waited a considerable amount of time, only to have one entree piping hot and the other pretty much stone cold. Obviously one sat in the kitchen waiting while the other was being prepped.
I've also had very friendly service there. And ordering a sandwich/burger at the bar is usually a great choice, for fast and hot service.
But I've had service that was so bad that I had to wander to the kitchen to beg for silverware after our waiter served us food with nothing to eat it with, then went on extended smoke break.
Yes, I know it's primarily a pub, not four star dining. But still, folks, this ain't rocket science. And as others have pointed out, a food bill at Argo can get expensive very quick.
I've left Argo mostly satisfied. But several times I've felt like I went only because I wanted to support a pioneering business, and that if given a choice I'd not be in a hurry to go back.
Plus, the bathrooms. Good Lord, they are skanky. Again, I know it's a pub, but still. Most of us that have worked in restaurants (myself included) assume that if the public bathroom is that filthy then the kitchen is even worse. Joe, buddy, spend some of that cash and put in decent fixtures in the bath, and then make your employees actually clean it during the day and night, not just after you've closed at night.
But that crabby shrimpy thing was really quite good.
i must be the "shit on a stick" kid because i love the argo food, especially the catfish sandwich. and half price burger mondays rock. plus the guys that work there are really cool, which always makes any dining experience that much better.
regards,
the shit on a stick kid
Joe Englert said:
I think one of the fundamental problems of H Street continues to be that there are too FEW restaurants. Our food, our bathrooms, every single bad or (fortunately) good experience is magnified. I think you should expect perfection in any place. But it is really hard to be under the microscope of people who will gladly slam you on a blog because it is so easy to type. I go out to eat four or five times a week and maybe once a week, I really am impressed with a dining experience. The difference is, I am not inclinded to broadcast my experience.
But all comments are being read by the Argonaut staff and we continue to be concerned and try to improve. One of our problems right now is sheer volume. Business has doubled but alas, our kitchen has not. In the near future, we will expand the kitchen and then the ticket times should go down considerably.
If you are not impressed with a visit to the Argonaut, tell the management. We want to improve and there always should be a way to make any reasonable person happy.
Thanks for being so interested in us!
I am sorry Joe but I had some downright shitty service and really long wait for some food at the Argonaut. Have not been back since, and for the price I could find plenty of other places on the Hill with better service, cheaper food, better food, in an area I would feel more comfortable in after dark.
I had a conversation earlier tonight that basically mirrored some of the stuff Joe Englert said about some of the Argonaut in terms of people putting extra focus on them (I'm not saying they are perfect) because it is prety much the only sit-down place to have dinner. I think we need more restaurants. The Argonaut could improve some things, but in the end they are a pub type place with a tiny kitchen, so there are some limits there.
Re Stick Rice: it is a permit issue. They can't do a thing until they get the permits. One of the partners told me they can be ready about 3 months after hey get the permits, but they've been waiting quite a while for those permits.
It is a slow process guys, but think back a few years and look at how far H Street has come. We're unlike Barracks Row in that we didn't have any quality long-term restaurants (like Banana Cafe) that existed before. We'll get our mix, and places like the Argonaut have been, and will continue to be a part of it. So, talk to them when there is an issue. They probably can't resolve them all, but saying it when you frequent a place is probably more effective than exclusively saying it here.
I appreciate Joe's comments.
But I'm not looking for restaurant perfection. I put myself through high school and college waiting tables, so I know how things can come unravelled sometimes. I tend to cut restaurant staff a huge break, a lot more than I was often cut in my years of kitchen and wait staff experiences.
As for commenting on a blog vs in person, I tried commenting in person. My server at Argo literally just stood there, waiting for me to stop talking, then essentially just walked away, after mumbling something inspecific about that's just how it is sometimes. I seriously doubt my comments went past the waiter.
Blogs are useful if they serve as venues for hearing things we're too polite to say in person.
I don't see anyone here just viciously attacking any particular restaurant. The comments I've seen here pretty much mirror my own experiences at Argo and other Hill places.
And, honestly, having to ask for a manager during a meal in DC pretty much ruins the experience and makes everyone upset. And more ofen than not in DC it just results in an insincere apology and nothing changes.
And please remember that I've reported very pleasant experiences at Argo. But the nature of blogs is to comment on the negative. Honestly, no one is going to read a blog that gushes on and on, saying only positive things.
As for the bathrooms, that may be just my pet peeve (although nearly every time I brought a new visitor to Argo they all commented on the bathrooms). And, with due respect to Joe, many of Joe's places have similar bathrooms. Essentially, the cheap or 'original' fixtures, and a cleaning schedule that seems sporadic at best. You can do a simple bathroom remodel for $1000, and cleaning is simply a matter of tasking a particular employee with it, on every shift, and holding them responsible if it's not done.
Joe Englert said:
H street has been truly a unique experience for us.
1) We have never sold so much food at any location in regards to percentages--At Argonaut, 40% of our sales are food. Compare this to Big Hunt, Lucky Bar (8%). Capitol Lounge is the one closest at 18% food sales.
2) Our kitchen was designed for a 25 seat restaurant. When the patio is open, we have 125 seats. (We are expanding and renovating soon.)
3) Unlike other locations, the Argo is hit hard at times with people having to get to a show at the Atlas or RnR.
4) We have made a serious investment in kitchen consultants and chefs at the Argo and R&B. Argo's consultant is from Oyamel and Zatanya. R&B's cook is from Indie Bleu.
5)Argonaut has some serious staffing issues. We are usually 2-3 people short on any given night. Because of the lack of density with apartment houses and group houses, we rarely have a job applicant. (Rnr and R&B have an easier task because they are staffed by music lovers).
6) Trust me, the negative comments are a true concern. We take every bad experience personally.
There is no reason to give a bad place a second chance, but I think we are a good place that gets better all the time.
If you have a negative experience, tell Scott or Sean the managers on duty. We never expect anyone to pay for a bad meal. Drinks should be cold, made right, etc. We want to know when your server isn't attentive. Please email me at joe@dcpanic.net when you are displeased. If you are willing to give us an opportunity to correct on a less than satisfactory experience, we will try our best to make good.
Bathroom improvements on the horizon, too.
Thanks for all your interest!
Joe:
Thanks for the detailed posting.
And I share your pain on the staffing issue. My partner talked about opening a restaurant / pub in DC a few years back, but I dissuaded him from that notion by having him talk to a few pub managers about staffing issues in the DC area. Good employees are damn hard to come by in DC, not just in the food service field. More than a few good restaurant ventures in DC have failed because of this difficulty, as I'm sure you know.
Your staff at Argo have almost always been unfailingly friendly, so that goes a long way. That's more than some places can say....
Glad to hear of the renovations and expansions.
We go out frequently all over the city as well as other parts of the country. There are times I've wanted faster service at the Argonaut, but overall I've been very pleased with the atmosphere and the staff. Certainly our relationship with Quicke was a factor there and I'll admit we haven't been back as much since he's been gone, but partly because we've also been hanging out at some of the newer establishments, such as The Pug. We're huge fans of Tony and his crew and our only complaint is that there isn't food (neon orange cheese puffs aside.) In addition to the significant amount of time I've spent as a consumer, I also waited tables during high school, college and beyond. I now work in health care and the combination of the two experiences helps me realize how trivial a cold sandwich or slow beer can be. Life will go on, and I'm not likely to die from such travesties. All of that to say, I love the places that we've currently got and am looking forward to all that's coming. w
Just wanted to throw out some positive vibe for the Argoanut. My wife and I have been going periodically since its opening and have seen many iterations of menu and staffing changes. We've never had trouble with the food or people. Where else on H street can you enjoy pub grub, play some yhatzee and drink a beer? Support the local change. If you need to feel all entitled and elite, feel free to go stand in line at Old Ebbitt Grill.
Linden Place Dweller
Going to Old Ebbitt is elitism? Really? That's all it takes to be accused of elitism now?
Ebbitt is hardly an exclusive restaurant. In fact, it's in roughly the same price range as Argo. But at least they do have their act together. Their wait staff actually goes through training, which is more than most in DC. And the food generally shows up hot in a reasonable time period.
It's run professionally, and it shows.
If that's elitist, then I'm guilty as charged.
Hello all. My name is Chris Surrusco, and I am the general mgr for Granville Moore's. Just a little info as to what we have in store for you... 4 draft Belgian beers (Stella, and 3 that rotate often). I'm buying in small lots and dealing with importers directly to ensure freshness and quality. 60+ Belgian beers in the bottle. Some you'll know, some you won't, but all will be good (I spent 6.5 years as a proffesional brewer). I've worked in the area for 11 years (Restaurant Eve, Rustico, Vermillion), and my staff comes with experience in both beer (Old Dominion Brewing Co, Schneider's), and service (Carlyle Grande, Clyde's, 1789). The leading candidate for chef (yes, CHEF!) has his chops as well (French Laundry, Restaurant Nora, Ardeo). Food will be localy sourced, and with an emphasis on freshness (see you at the famer's market). You will never see the Sysco truck in front of 1238 H st NE (but you may see Tom Sietsema)! And we want it to be affordable (@ $30 per person with frittes, moules, a DeKonick, and tip). Throw in a little music, and the coolest interior you've ever seen, and you have Granville Moore's. A neighboorhood gastro-pub, with a taste of Antwerp thrown in.
Feel free to contact me directly with any questions or comments you have.
Cheers!
Chris Surrusco
202.399.BLGM
docmoores@gmail.com
Wow, what an honor and a privilege!
Thanks for posting! Can't wait until Granville opens!
Do we have any target dates?
Chris:
That sounds very nice.
Chris -- that sounds amazing. I can't wait for your opening. It sounds like exactly what H Street needs. (I would say "just what the doctor ordered" but that would be wrong of me.)
As for the Argonaut debate -- I love that place. Haven't had a bad experience since the first month or so. Delicious, fun, and friendly.
I know that won't change any opinions, but I beg anyone reading these comments who has never been to go make up their own mind. But go at dinnertime if you want to eat dinner. And order something they are good at (when you see a menu that's primarily soul food, don't get the chips and salsa!)
i've never had a bad experience there. i've even partied down when they have their little weekend dance parties.
hell, i've been to citronelle and not had the best experience.
every joint has good days and bad days. it's just the way it is.
I agree with Nate B., go see what's shaking at the Argonaut for yourself. I've eaten there more than a couple of times and my food was always hot, tasty, and properly prepared.
I am totally in support of the Argonaut. Though their menu doesn't seem to change much and it's not cheap, the bar food is much better than any bars I have been to in DC and reasonably priced. Actually, when I am in the mood for bar food, I always head to the Argonaut. The service is usually slower, but it's a bar... sheesh! I expect to have a leisurely dinner over several draughts when I head to a bar to have dinner.
Chris, thanks for the info on Dr. Granville Moore's. Now we just need to get more establishments on the west side of H St!
will they have free wifi too?!?!?!
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