A look at what's going on in Trinidad, on H Street, and in the larger area north of Capitol Hill.
Tuesday, November 13, 2007
VOH: H Street Mulls Bar Cap
Voice of the Hill reports on the ANC 6 ABL Committee's community discussion of a potential CN/CT license cap. This meeting is next Tuesday from 7-9 at the Sherwood Rec. Center (10th & G).
15 comments:
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Did anyone else hear about a halfway house going up on 8th and I?
c'mon anonymous, stop blaming joe for everything and get a life. express more coherent thoughts at the meeting on tuesday and people might take you seriously.
Anonymous 8:13, H Street is about 15 years from becoming anything like Adams Morgan. I think we need to work on getting it actually thriving before discussing a moratorium. I remember Adams Morgan 20 years ago before it became a happening place, when it was just starting on the map and was only known for Ethipoian food. That was, I emphasize, 20 years ago. Jump the gun, and H street will never take off.
I couldn't disagree more. First off, I think your 15 year timeline isn't accurate; but regardless, planning can only. Placing a moratorium, which is purely hypothetical at this point, won't stymie development. If anything, it will likely foster competition by capping the number of liscenses available. Development on H has already started to "take off." Is it at its full potential yet? Of course not. But there is certainly no harm in proactively discussing ways to ensure develoment remains on a positivei track.
OT: did you read today's WaPo article on how Fenty has a new housing program for the homeless. It says:
"Under the mayor's plan, 350 homeless people who primarily live on downtown streets would be moved into existing apartments and other units. With that housing would come an array of social services, officials said. Another 150 units of so-called permanent supportive housing would be built by Catholic Charities USA on vacant city-owned land at Fourth and H Streets NW. That project would also house the chronically homeless, as well as low-income residents."
Umm, 4th and H NW does not have a vacant lot there (Mass Court, 400 Mass Ave, and the GAO). Could they be talking about the vacant 4th and H NE lot?
I know you know this already, but please don't take the senseless drivel that comes from anonymity as the voice of the neighborhood. We need to plan for coming growth, and I hope everyone who has a better, intelligent plan than Joe's and our own local ABC will voice their opinions on the 20th. Will you be there too, Joe? I plan on being there as well.
An equally good question is why the city has to give the Catholic Church city-owned land for this?
The Catholic Church recently announced a deal to subdivide their St. Paul's College campus in Brookland. They are using 10 acres to build a massive housing development, only 10% of which will be affordable housing.
See this link for detail...
http://dcmud.blogspot.com/
So let's see now. The Catholic Church believes in homeless housing, but only in our neighborhood, not on their land?
It's also worth noting that Catholic Charities USA's headquarters is on King Street in Alexandria. And how much homeless housing are they proposing for that block? I'm betting none.
The Archdiocese of Washington is the largest nongovernmental provider of social services in the metropolitan area. How about we thank them for doing what others can't/won't??
Maybe the issue is terminology. To me, moratorium means we will not grant any more permits from this time forward. Example: the recent moratorium on single beer sales. A cap is a different story.
Liz: The Archdiocese is also one of the largest landholders in DC, and nearly all of that land is exempted from real estate and other taxes. I'd say that's thanks enough.
And your comment doesn't really answer the questions I raised. Since you are clearly a supporter of the Archdiocese, would you care to answer my post more substantively?
15 comments:
Did anyone else hear about a halfway house going up on 8th and I?
Did anyone see that VOTH, per their editorial in the last issue, appears to look upon such a moratorium favorablly?
Does anyone know if Capitol Hill Restoration Society has expressed their position on such a moratorium yet?
Excellent move Joe......swoop into H street NE......gobble up cheap property and then close the door to your competition. WE will not let this happen.
c'mon anonymous, stop blaming joe for everything and get a life. express more coherent thoughts at the meeting on tuesday and people might take you seriously.
Exactly the reason this is a good a necessary step.
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/1107/472440.html
Anonymous 8:13, H Street is about 15 years from becoming anything like Adams Morgan. I think we need to work on getting it actually thriving before discussing a moratorium.
I remember Adams Morgan 20 years ago before it became a happening place, when it was just starting on the map and was only known for Ethipoian food. That was, I emphasize, 20 years ago.
Jump the gun, and H street will never take off.
Joe Englert said:
I suggested limiting licenses at 60. Why is this such a bad thing to actually plan and get things together like parking, transportation and safety?
I couldn't disagree more. First off, I think your 15 year timeline isn't accurate; but regardless, planning can only. Placing a moratorium, which is purely hypothetical at this point, won't stymie development. If anything, it will likely foster competition by capping the number of liscenses available. Development on H has already started to "take off." Is it at its full potential yet? Of course not. But there is certainly no harm in proactively discussing ways to ensure develoment remains on a positivei track.
Please pardon the typos...
OT: did you read today's WaPo article on how Fenty has a new housing program for the homeless. It says:
"Under the mayor's plan, 350 homeless people who primarily live on downtown streets would be moved into existing apartments and other units. With that housing would come an array of social services, officials said. Another 150 units of so-called permanent supportive housing would be built by Catholic Charities USA on vacant city-owned land at Fourth and H Streets NW. That project would also house the chronically homeless, as well as low-income residents."
Umm, 4th and H NW does not have a vacant lot there (Mass Court, 400 Mass Ave, and the GAO). Could they be talking about the vacant 4th and H NE lot?
Joe,
I know you know this already, but please don't take the senseless drivel that comes from anonymity as the voice of the neighborhood. We need to plan for coming growth, and I hope everyone who has a better, intelligent plan than Joe's and our own local ABC will voice their opinions on the 20th. Will you be there too, Joe? I plan on being there as well.
Dave:
That's a mighty good question.
An equally good question is why the city has to give the Catholic Church city-owned land for this?
The Catholic Church recently announced a deal to subdivide their St. Paul's College campus in Brookland. They are using 10 acres to build a massive housing development, only 10% of which will be affordable housing.
See this link for detail...
http://dcmud.blogspot.com/
So let's see now. The Catholic Church believes in homeless housing, but only in our neighborhood, not on their land?
It's also worth noting that Catholic Charities USA's headquarters is on King Street in Alexandria. And how much homeless housing are they proposing for that block? I'm betting none.
The Archdiocese of Washington is the largest nongovernmental provider of social services in the metropolitan area. How about we thank them for doing what others can't/won't??
Maybe the issue is terminology. To me, moratorium means we will not grant any more permits from this time forward. Example: the recent moratorium on single beer sales.
A cap is a different story.
Liz: The Archdiocese is also one of the largest landholders in DC, and nearly all of that land is exempted from real estate and other taxes. I'd say that's thanks enough.
And your comment doesn't really answer the questions I raised. Since you are clearly a supporter of the Archdiocese, would you care to answer my post more substantively?
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