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UPDATE
The map may better reflect a particular blogger's ideas about Metrorail, but he was trying to comminicate the larger Metro vision.
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UPDATE
The map may better reflect a particular blogger's ideas about Metrorail, but he was trying to comminicate the larger Metro vision.
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15 comments:
LOL! metro's version of a bucket list. Dream big I suppose. I see there is a Georgetown stop on there too.
Hmmmm, I'll be 64 in 2030, so that Trinidad station will come along just in time to fund my retirement... :-)
Rob, perhaps you can sit back, dream of a metro stop, and put on that Beatles song.
Technically, those stations are in the bucket list of blogger Dave Albert, not Metro. As he says in his original post on the subject:
Separate Blue Line. This new line through downtown, originally proposed in 2001, would split off from the Orange Line at Rosslyn, cross the Potomac in a new tunnel to Georgetown, then run east along M Street to Mount Vernon Square and then Union Station.
The WMATA presentation's map shows the line heading down Massachusetts Ave from Thomas Circle to Union Station, but my map shows it continuing along M Street to facilitate a better transfer at Mount Vernon Square (since the station is actually on M rather than at the square itself).
Reports are vague on what the line would do east of Union Station; the old Post map showed it going to Stadium-Armory, but it would make more sense for it to run straight down H Street and cross the river with the Orange Line, letting riders connect between the two at a new infill station between River Terrace and the soon-to-be-closed Pepco plant.
Update: I've modified the map to show the Blue Line running to a separate Rosslyn station one block west of the current one, connected by an underground walkway, to better match WMATA's best thinking on the physical reality.
Furthermore, if we had the metro coming down H, the streetcar could then go up Florida, connecting Minnisota Ave with the U St stop.
But since the streetcar will presumably be there already, I think they should keep it on K, have it transfer at the NY Ave Station, run down Fla Ave (w/ a station at Montello Ave) to the starburst intersection, and then continue on its merry way. H will have already been streetscaped so no need to tear it up again!
Yes Inked, good idea.
"Will you still be joining me on the Metro lines?,
Sunday mornings go for a ride."
Plus, everyone gets a pony!
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Chris: Who needs a pony when I've just re-routed Metro to my front door?
If you look at the original WMATA graphic, as depicted in the Post in 2001, it showed two stations. How do you think that stuff got back on track? I got a copy of the graphic from the Post journalist, and other bloggers have been referring to it since last year.
www.flickr.com/photos/rllayman/499504849
And of course, I remembered the graphic from reading the piece back in 2001, when our working group was doing very stuff, including leading up to the Main Street program.
Here's some more info on the WMATA expansion not mentioned
It's a Masterplan and a notion to develop around. One thing that everyone is not thinking about(or they are and had not mentioned it) is that the streets would be dug up to create the tunnel. The way people around here grip, I believe they would put a stop to any destruction to their street. Already the street cars have been planned and approved to go along H Street, so the Metro Tunneling would not happen, just changed into a street car transfer.
How many people here have lived on a street with a Strassenbahn (Street-train) on it? I have and they are loud. It is a large jump for us to make if it happens. Those of us who have lived in Europe for a period of time I think would understand that one.
I want a pony! :)
then vote for hillary, k street!
derek, you don't seem to know what is being proposed. The blue line separation was proposed in 2001, in order to provide redundancy and extra capacity for a "soon to be" at capacity downtown heavy rail system.
That was dropped in 2003 when WMATA devolved responsiblity for expansion planning to the jurisdictions, due to financial problems.
At that time, DC punted on the blue line idea, moving towards streetcars, because they are cheaper.
But they are really a different transit system. One is inter-regional, the subway, while the other is really more intra-city and even intra-commercial district. (The former is faster and carries many more people.)
And the Inekon/Skoda streetcars aren't noisy. Generally, but not always, streetcars/trolleybuses are quiet(er) due to the electricity fueling their movement, depending on the weight and length of the train set and the quality of the braking systems. Inekon streetcars are pretty small and relatively easy to stop (unlike a regular train or a subway train).
I don't know about the German technology you mention, but it sounds more like light rail, which yes, is noisier (see above).
So your point about the streetcar "vs." subway, the subway being a streetcar on H Street is wrong--FTA requires separated and protected trackage for heavy rail and railroad (FRA regulations there) so you could never run a subway above grade on a street like H Street (cf. I-66 and the Orange Line).
And probably it wouldn't be cut and cover but tunnelized, so the same kind of problems that occured on U Street would not occur, but I don't know for sure, not being a civil engineer.
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