Wednesday, June 11, 2008

Shining A Harsh Light on Trinidad

Post opinion columnist Courtland Milloy examines the controversial MPD checkpoint on Montello. MPD has also, in a move perhaps more likely to concern residents, begun to close off certain streets during checkpoint hours to street automotive traffic through the checkpoint. One note about Rayful Edmond, the long-incarcerated drug king whom Milloy references, is that he actually was running things out of Orleans Place. Though neighborhood lines are sometimes malleable, today you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would say that Orleans is located in Trinidad. Most people would probably either place it in Near Northeast, or the more recently minted Capitol Hill North. But this isn't the first time a reporter has called the area around Orleans and Morton [two tiny one block streets] Trinidad. Harry Jaffe did it in 2006 when he referred to Trinidad as “sandwiched between Florida Avenue and H Street.” Umm, not so much. Looking at a map the neighborhood of Trinidad lies entirely north of Florida Avenue and entirely east of Gallaudet University. I suspect that what's going on here might be a little confusion about boundaries. Trinidad's official boundaries are pretty clear because it was a separate estate long before it ever became a neighborhood. Looking at this Post article from 1996 you can see that Trinidad was often mentioned in connection with Rayful Edmond because he did supply many of the drugs sold there, but this was also true of other neighborhoods. The 1996 article, and the 1995 court document above, refer to the Morton Orleans two block clump as The Strip. The 1996 article gets the boundaries of Trinidad right and says that Edmond worked out of the Strip, but later, while incarcerated, orchestrated sales of cocaine to supply the Trinidad neighborhood "just across Florida Avenue NE from Edmond's old retail drug operation, known as the Strip, on Morton and Orleans places NE."

22 comments:

IMGoph said...

amen! trinidad is one of those neighborhoods whose boundaries are so easy to define. nothing like trying to figure out where shaw ends and eckington begins, or something like that!

Anonymous said...

Thats why it's so much easier to have police presence that would curtail the violence without having to have Road blocks. There are key areas in Trinidad that officers can post up that would cover plenty off ground.. It don't see how it's that difficult, seriously I'm just ready to throw my hands in the air..

Trinidad Home Owner

Anonymous said...

All this is reminding me of the problems Capitol Hill faced in the early to mid 90s....everything was Capitol Hill and it was plastered all over the Post, all the time. The crime was horrible and it wasn't just the thugs killing each other. Everything was for rent, because people left the city in droves, property values plummetted. There are ups and downs with gentrification. Keep fighting for your neighborhood.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, this harsh light is creating a pretty nasty "Google-trail" that's going to seriously impede my ability to sell my home should I decide to leave anytime soon.

Unknown said...

As someone who lived on Morton Place for the last 2 years I can tell you that the crack cocaine trade is still alive and well on Orleans. Specifically at 624 Orleans who's back alley crack store used to be what I saw out of my back window.
As for the proper term for that slice oof NE DC. The new and improved term is SOFLO South of Florida north of H.

Anonymous said...

I still prefer Swampoodle, the original name for the area. Hell's Kitchen in Manhattan has finally stuck after years of trying to force Murry Hill down everyone's throat. And after the weather lately, I think any name with swamp in it is more than appropriate.

IMGoph said...

sorry, anon. swampoodle was an area west of the tracks, where tiber creek once flowed. that's where the city is trying to force 'noma' on us now. it certainly isn't related to trinidad or the north of h street area.

Anonymous said...

Anon...Hell's Kitchen(on the west side)has been Hell's Kitchen as long as I remember(since the 70s) and Murray Hill is on the east side. I think you are confused.

Anonymous said...

Unrelated: Yesterday while I was waiting for the bus I saw workers planting [that perennial that looks like dark green grass that I don't know the name of] in all the tree boxes along Montello.
Anybody who lives along there, please water this stuff so it takes hold. The scale of it was large enough that I was guessing maybe the city was behind it.

IMGoph said...

talking about liriope?

Unknown said...

I live at 7th and Orleans. Orleans and Morton have improved considerably in the last few years.

I'm on the fence over the police checkpoints in Trinidad. I'm not entirely convinced that increased police foot patrols are going to do anything to stem the violence, unless they are implemented logically. I remember coming home around 9pm one night in April or May and seeing about ten police officers on Orleans Place standing around chit-chatting (I asked on of them if something had happened...they claimed they were merely assigned to a foot patrol in the area). Although I appreciate their presence, it only provides the facade of safety. Wouldn't it make more sense to have them spread out evenly over the entire neighborhood, say two per block walking around the entire neighborhood?

However, the checkpoints are a short-term solution to the violence; they won't do anything to address the underlying factors, such as terrible schools, unemployment, poverty and drugs, that cause people to drift towards crime and violence.

Anonymous said...

Michael,

The back of 624 Orleans faces Florida. If you lived on Morton your back window would face the odd numbered houses. Might want to correct the post so as not to tag the wrong house.

I haven't seen much activity in the back alley between Orleans and Morton so far this year, compared to past years, but of course the summer is young.

Anonymous said...

Orleans is still no picnic, thanks to the all the teens who live over there and like to wander the area...at any rate, why can't the cops do something about the 1000 block of 6th Street?

Every time I drive up 6th after 4 in the afternoon, there is a crowd of losers hanging out, drinking, playing dice or dominoes, smoking dope. I'm totally sick of seeing it - I can't imagine how crazy I'd be going if I actually lived on 6th.

Anonymous said...

Yup, liriope.

Speaking of Montello, coming home from Home Depot just now I passed three police cars staked out at Montello and Oates, but was not stopped. I'd love to be a fly on the wall to hear their plan, how this thing is being implemented.

Anonymous said...

With all due respect, Inked, you are splitting hairs. Orleans is tiny, and the whole thing is basically right at Florida Ave. While it could be considered Capitol Hill North now, that neighborhood designation is very recent-- a result of the "g-word." :) So people historically associated Orleans with Trinidad.

It seems that your larger point is a sensitivity about Trinidad's past. That's understandable, but I don't think this particular argument is really that persuasive.

inked said...

Anon 603,
they are very close. What I'm doing is just being a stickler for details. Trust me, I am aware that Trinidad has a very violent past, but I do want people to be clear on their geography in terms of where things actually happened. Lots of people may not be aware of the exact locations, and when they read Trinidad, they think of what we all consider Trinidad today. I did mentioned that neighborhood lines can be malleable, and I do know that some people did once associate areas that we wouldn't call Trinidad today with the Trinidad neighborhood. So really, I'm just being picky, not defensive about something that occurred decades ago.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:21,

You're right, Orleans still has a long way to go. Though I still think it's an improvement over a few years ago. As for the 1000 of 6th St, it’s a huge problem. The police usually camp out around the school yard for a couple weeks each summer, but as soon as they leave activity picks right back up. I don't know what the solution is, other than to keep reporting it to the police.

I'd also like to get parking restrictions on the 1000-1200 blocks of 6th Street. Lots of MD and VA cars parked on the street all day and night. Basically 6th street is a free parking lot for commuters and drug buyers. Since I doubt we could get 90% of residents to sign the required petition, could the ANC help with this? It seems unfair when all of SE Capitol Hill is Zone 6 holders only 7 days a week (i.e. not 2 hour, daytime restriction, no parking anytime without a permit), because of the stadium, and we have anything goes.

Anonymous said...

Anyone know anything about the alley on I St NE, b/w 6th and 7th across from the Blair Shelter? I see groups of teenagers going in and out of there all the time...

Anonymous said...

After reading this post, I realized it is important to tell others about the positive things that are happening on Orleans Place.

Neighbors and friends of Orleans Place have recently come together to create the Orleans Place Community Group.

We are scheduled to have a Beautification and Bring Your Own BBQ Social on Saturday, July 19th. We start at 11:30 AM.

Everyone is welcomed to come...

Also, please join the Orleans Place google group, to find out what is really going on at 604-656 Orleans and find out what you can do to help make Orleans Place one of the best blocks to live in the city! Send an email to orleansplace@googlegroups.com


The Orleans Place Community Group is an organized group of neighbors, advocates, and friends. The Orleans Place Community Group is committed to working with neighbors, the District of Columbia Government, neighborhood organizations and other associations to promote a spirit of cooperation and social interaction among neighbors, improve the physical and moral environment of the neighborhood, eliminate counterproductive influences in the neighborhood, and cooperate with DC city teams, departments, agencies and other organizations to improve the health, safety and physical standards of 604-656 Orleans Place Northeast in the District of Columbia.

Anonymous said...

I love how you white folks come in our city and think that just because you have simply moved in it is now a better place. LETS KEEP D.C. BLACK!!!!!

Anonymous said...

The last comment was very harsh...

What I say to that is that we must work to understand each other, build bridges, and find common interests.

Name calling, and lack of communication does not solve problems. It is important that we learn to respect one another as human beings and neighbors--- all people...

Anonymous said...

how is trinidad these days almost 7 years after this thread started? are things safer? i'm originally from dc but grew up in the suburbs and gentrification has changed many neighborhoods over the last 8 years since i've lived in different places. i'm finding a hard time finding an apt because i can't seem to find a happy medium between an affordable and community-oriented neighborhood and an expensive trendy haven for yuppy transplants. some of those ppl are my friends, so please don't attack. i am just telling it like it is. our city is losing all of its character and charm.