A crime alert went out early this morning suggesting that the 7-Eleven at 900 Bladensburg Road may have been robbed again.
Robbery OF ESTABLISHMENT 0432 HOURS 900 BLADENSBURG ROAD NE LOOKOUT FOR B/M, 5'7", 185 LBS., WEARING A BLUE COAT,... 1.usa.gov/XIK4za
— dcalerts (@dcalerts) February 5, 2013
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Anonymous
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You gotta get up pret-ty early in the morning to catch these crooks.
They probably just wait across the street for the fat cops who sit in the parking lot most of the time to roll out. Doh!
The Fifth Police District would like to commend our officers and inform you of a significant Robbery Arrest that was made by our members early this morning:
Members of the midnight tour responded to a robbery at the 7-Eleven Store in the 900 Block of Bladensburg Rd., NE, literally five minutes after one of our units had made a business check at the establishment.
Responding Units were informed that the suspect entered the store with a note demanding money. The store clerk saw (what appeared to be the handle of a handgun in the suspect's waistband). The Suspect took cash and store items, fleeing on foot out the front door. The 5D Report Unit voiced the lookout.
A short time later, 5D Units made a stop of the suspect, matching the lookout, and it was determined that the stopped individual was, in fact, the suspect that had just robbed the 7-Eleven Store. He was arrested and transported for processing. This individual will also be looked at in similar robberies in the area.
Suspect was, in fact, a former 7-Eleven employee that had been fired for stealing money.
Is there any way we could encourage the cops to beat the living tar out of these guys when making an arrest? I mean, since there's absolutely zero disincentive coming from the rest of the justice system?
I have to agree with the comments about the Districts weak prosecution systems, and the professional criminal rightly see the whole judicial structure as a joke. Does anyone know why there is not a movement afoot to give more teeth to the criminal courts here in our Nation's capitol.
Probably because the judge knows that these kids come from broken families with no role models, dads in prison, moms working 20 jobs or addicted to _____. On top of that they most likely came from a school system that ranks in the top 5 worst in the nation. He was doomed from the start. You're not really doing him or anyone any good throwing him in jail for a few years knowing that 40 of his classmates are next in line. Think of it this way, what do you do when you're standing outside the end of a sewage line and you have shit spewing out of control into the city streets? Your first reaction will be to take buckets and catch them and move the shit off the streets. But after a while, it's too much and becomes pointless knowing that the shit will keep on coming unless you get to the source of the problem and fix it so shit no longer comes spewing out. Rhee tried to do it, didn't work. If you really want to put an end to this, the judge should arrest one DC school teacher for every thug that commits a crime of this nature.
So what? Law abiding citizens should live in fear of going to 7-11 to get a slurpee because of their broken home? A lot of people get tough breaks in life, but they dont all become criminals. We've been treating criminals in the city with kid gloves for years and you see where that has gotten us. Our house had been broken into so many times that we actually stopped buying nice things and took our personal laptops with us when leaving for work.
Its people like the poster above that prevent any movement on revamping the dc judicial system. Believe me i was a bleeding heart liberal when i moved to DC. I saw welfare policies in action in the city and got disgusted by the whole thing. I left DC as close to a blue dog democrat/moderate republican as i could get. But i suppose if you dont mind bending your life and freedoms to accomodate criminals "because they had a hard life" then eh, what the hell do i have to say about it.
The point of that post, anon 11:18, is that more buckets is not the solution which is what people like you seem to always be proposing. You can triple the police presence, stiffen the sentences, but they're just going to keep coming out of that shitty pipeline as long as that pipeline continues to be broken and you're still going to get your house broken into. Then what? You end up having a prison system that would grow to be the size of Arkansas and random break ins, robberies and the like continue to happen. I'll excuse your shortsightedness due to your recent transformation to the republican side.
Sorry, Reed, I have to agree with anonymous. Things are being tried your way with no improvements. Think about this, if you keep doing things the same way, you're going to get the same results. A multi-pronged solution is needed. And I'll excuse your analogy that is calling them shit as soon as they come out of the womb.
Well if you want to solve the problem at the source, lets start with this:
1. Stop incentivizing teens (and adults) who cannot afford to take care of children to get pregnant. Every day on thar D4, i saw teen/ young moms dragging at least one, sometimes 2 kids behind them. Someone please give them a condom and stop making me pay (via taxes) for kid #s 2,3,4... if you cant take care of'em dont have 'em.
2. Fix DC schools. Tell politicians to get out of unions' pockets and on the side of kids. Who cares if charter schools take over the entire system?! When private sector companies are projecting how many prisons to build based
on the DC eighth grade literacy rates, politicians should be ashamed of themselves!
I think everyone has a point here. As long as more babies = more welfare money, a lot of problems won't be solved. DC schools are an embarrassment despite the fact that we spend more money per student than almost every school system in the country. Also, the revolving door on our jails and juvenile homes ensure that repeat offenders will continue their criminal activites without fear of real punishment.
Fix the schools, spend more of our welfare budget on job training and parenting classes, make parents accountable for their children and teach them the skills they need to provide and care for their families.
One thing I will disagree with is the tired 'hard life is an excuse for crime' argument. For every criminal's sob story I know someone who had it worse and still grew up to be a law-abiding productive adult.
And in the meantime, law abiding citizens should not be terrorized by neighborhood kids. Period.
Their rights stop where another person's begins. All the other sob story drivel about their hard life is difficult to listen to when my wife is afraid to relax in her own home.
Nobody is telling anyone to condone their criminal behavior. I'm telling you why this behavior continues. I agree with the previous posts where it will take a combination of a little bit of everything to get the system fixed.
We should be understanding of kids who commit crimes, and increase spending on programs to rehabilitate them, etc...
Kids who are over the age of 14 and commit crimes of violence, or while armed should be locked up until they're 40. Sorry, but the vast majority of disadvantaged kids *aren't* committing violent crimes.
In fact their assertion that "forty of their classmates" are waiting in the wings is disgusting, bordering on racist. Certainly classist.
Violent criminal behavior is like a virus. If you don't remove the kids who are committing violent crimes from their schools/peers quickly, it spreads. And for every violent 15, 16, or 17 year old we refrain from prosecuting because "he never had a chance" you're destroying the chances of every other kid in his peer group that he's going to prey on.
Lock them up til they're forty and let the other kids have a chance at a future.
One other thing: the cry "Fix the Schools!" is ridiculous. You may as well just bray "Fix The Poverty!" We can have poverty mitigation programs, but there are always going to be poor people. You fix poverty in the case of individuals. And if those individuals get "fixed" they move to MD and buy a nice suburban house. And other people fall into poverty.
Historically, when you become poor, you move into DC (or stay). When you become middle-class, you move out to the suburbs. With that model, you're never going to fix the schools. Because poor schools are shitty schools.
If you want to fix the schools (and every other DC public service) you need to ensure that regional poverty is spread around the region--not concentrated in two wards of the District of Columbia.
It's like the dynamic where you have a high poverty neighborhood. That high poverty neighborhood is also high crime. There's trash littering the streets. Windows are broken. There aren't any decent retail or grocery options. The residents demand something be done. "Fix Our Neighborhood!"
Over time the neighborhood becomes gentrified. There's less trash on the streets. Suddenly the abandoned buildings with broken windows are renovated. Beautiful clean grocery stores open. Crime plummets.
There is nothing the government can do to "Fix The Neighborhood" any more than it can "Fix The Schools". Broken neighborhood is a function of concentrated poverty. Broken school is a function of concentrated poverty. Broken DMV is a function of concentrated poverty. Etc...
Anon said Violent criminal behavior is like a virus. If you don't remove the kids who are committing violent crimes from their schools/peers quickly, it spreads.
That's fine if anybody is naive enough to think that there are only a few "bad apples" in these schools.
That's fine if anybody is naive enough to think that there are only a few "bad apples" in these schools
There are a lot of kids who have the potential to become bad apples. Whether because of peer pressure, or retaliatory violence, or whatever. It's not that they're intrinsically worse than other kids (some kind of bad seed).
But the vast majority of poor kids are good kids who aren't going to engage in criminal behavior. But the minority of bad kids fuck up the good kids' lives a whole Hell of a lot more than they fuck up the lives of middle-class grown-ups who post here.
And frankly, the adults who are tolerant of this behavior do a Hell of a lot more harm to DC kids than the law-and-order types. The victims of these violent youths are, predominantly, other youths.
They can't engage in predation of decent people while they are in prison. Specific deterrence. If they have to stay there for 40 years to get this nonsense out of their systems, so be it.
The US imprisons way more of its population that almost anywhere. Pretty sure it is the most of any developed country. And our prisons are overcrowded. We need to build more prisons to alleviate the overcrowding and then we need to build even more to lock up petty thieves.
There really is no solution.
When people get desperate enough, they steal. They probably would rather be upstanding citizens, but they have no road to get there. I guess we can figure that out after we figure out how to get all the law abiding people who are out of work back to work.
Shit happens. Most of us here could probably live in a "safe" place if we really want to, if it exists. It's an informed decision we made. Keep your head on a swivel
The US imprisons way more of its population that almost anywhere. Pretty sure it is the most of any developed country. And our prisons are overcrowded.
The US prisons are overcrowded because we incarcerate an insane number of non-violent drug offenders. This, obviously, is a travesty. And part of that travesty is that violent criminals get relatively short sentences because available prison space is taken up by non-violent drug offenders.
The problem is not that we lock up too many people, but rather that we're hysterical about the failed Drug War, and so lock up the wrong people.
Oh, please. All the 'schools don't fix it' crowd needs to get a grip. A good education is an excellent way to get people out of poverty. There are enough success stories of poor kids going to charter schools to support this assertion. If you don't think so, fine. Don't complain about crime and move back to Reston where you belong.
Kids going to sub-standard schools with sub-standard teachers have no chance. Some of the kids on my street can't put together a coherent sentence. You're never going to get a job that way.
You're also not going to get rid of poverty by simply handing out money. Sure I'll find a way to pay my increased tax bill, but I'll do it by not going out to dinner, not shopping and not taking a cab. Way to go, the most marginalized folks in our society with the lowest paying jobs will suffer. Oh, and eventually you'll run out of my money. Then what?
Remember, it's easy to make something difficult...and genius to make it simple.
I love how every commenter thinks every other reader is interested in their incisive analysis or opinion. Reality: no one is. Quintessential DC: everyone's an expert in everything (almost no one is) and the arrogance of your average Joe Blow is off the charts. Oh, but by all means, please do tell us what else we should think about X.
Oh, please. All the 'schools don't fix it' crowd needs to get a grip. A good education is an excellent way to get people out of poverty. There are enough success stories of poor kids going to charter schools to support this assertion.
First, there are success stories of poor kids going to charter schools who "succeed". There are success stories of poor kids going to traditional DCPS schools who "succeed". Even the most poverty-stricken, underperforming DCPS schools have 15-25% of their students reading and doing math at grade level.
But I don't think that's what you're talking about. You seem to be arguing that, if we just somehow "fix the schools" we can get high-poverty schools to the point where the same numbers of kids are successful as in middle-class schools. And that's just not supported by any evidence.
The one outlier is KIPP, and those schools a) have and incredibly self-selecting parental cohort; and b) have strict behavior codes that make it easy for them to toss out troublemakers.
You can't apply this as a general solution for the same reason every state can't eliminate taxes and emulate Delaware. Their advantage comes from being able to drive the "bad" elsewhere and thereby attract the "good."
The problem with the "schools fix it" crowd is that some insipid hand-waving about "Fix The Schools!" doesn't get us anywhere.
Oh, please. All the 'schools don't fix it' crowd needs to get a grip. A good education is an excellent way to get people out of poverty. There are enough success stories of poor kids going to charter schools to support this assertion.
It's not some sort of corporatist plot that keeps the schools from getting fixed; it's the fact that poverty sucks (which is why we spend so much money trying to alleviate it) and therefore poor schools suck.
No kid should have to attend a shitty school, but the only way you fix that is by sending poor kids to middle-class schools. And you do that either by giving all poor people lots of money (making them not poor) or by giving them housing vouchers so that they can move to middle-class neighborhoods.
This chicken-and-egg debate about children raised in poverty and bad schools creating criminals is fascinating and all, but just in reference to the OP: according to WaPo, (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-police-charge-man-with-holding-up-same-store-four-times/2013/02/06/7e45c7ce-70ab-11e2-a050-b83a7b35c4b5_story.html?hpid=z6) this Upstanding Citizen was 53 years old, and is suspected as being the same individual who robbed the same 7-11 in Dec and twice in Nov. And he apparently didn't even have a gun, just a wooden handle sewed into his jacket pocket. I don't know whether to be impressed at his dedication or awed by his habitual stupidity. His most recent haul was $35 and four packs of Newports, which was apparently insufficient for his girlfriend; he was arrested heading back to the 7-11 that same evening to acquire more cash.
I personally feel much better if this was in fact a one-man incompetent crime spree fixated on the 7-11, rather than 4 different "hooligans" with moderate success.
In any event, the lifetime failures of a 53-year-old will not be solved with better schools. Y'all are a bunch of ageists, assuming it was a young person.
I don't think anyone said a young person was responsible for the 7-11 robbery. Somebody asked why the judicial system is so messed up. The comments are various people's opinion why.
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You gotta get up pret-ty early in the morning to catch these crooks.
They probably just wait across the street for the fat cops who sit in the parking lot most of the time to roll out. Doh!
looks like they got caught....
The Fifth Police District would like to commend our officers and inform you of a significant Robbery Arrest that was made by our members early this morning:
Members of the midnight tour responded to a robbery at the 7-Eleven Store in the 900 Block of Bladensburg Rd., NE, literally five minutes after one of our units had made a business check at the establishment.
Responding Units were informed that the suspect entered the store with a note demanding money. The store clerk saw (what appeared to be the handle of a handgun in the suspect's waistband). The Suspect took cash and store items, fleeing on foot out the front door. The 5D Report Unit voiced the lookout.
A short time later, 5D Units made a stop of the suspect, matching the lookout, and it was determined that the stopped individual was, in fact, the suspect that had just robbed the 7-Eleven Store. He was arrested and transported for processing. This individual will also be looked at in similar robberies in the area.
Suspect was, in fact, a former 7-Eleven employee that had been fired for stealing money.
With our "justice" system, he'll be back out robbing places again in about 10 days.
5'7", 185? They weeble and they wobble, but they won't fall down.
Is there any way we could encourage the cops to beat the living tar out of these guys when making an arrest? I mean, since there's absolutely zero disincentive coming from the rest of the justice system?
I have to agree with the comments about the Districts weak prosecution systems, and the professional criminal rightly see the whole judicial structure as a joke. Does anyone know why there is not a movement afoot to give more teeth to the criminal courts here in our Nation's capitol.
The judge should sentence the perpetrators to eat a dozen 7-11 taquitos in one sitting.
Probably because the judge knows that these kids come from broken families with no role models, dads in prison, moms working 20 jobs or addicted to _____.
On top of that they most likely came from a school system that ranks in the top 5 worst in the nation. He was doomed from the start.
You're not really doing him or anyone any good throwing him in jail for a few years knowing that 40 of his classmates are next in line.
Think of it this way, what do you do when you're standing outside the end of a sewage line and you have shit spewing out of control into the city streets? Your first reaction will be to take buckets and catch them and move the shit off the streets. But after a while, it's too much and becomes pointless knowing that the shit will keep on coming unless you get to the source of the problem and fix it so shit no longer comes spewing out.
Rhee tried to do it, didn't work.
If you really want to put an end to this, the judge should arrest one DC school teacher for every thug that commits a crime of this nature.
Reed for circuit court!
NOW!
Wth are you talking about?
So what? Law abiding citizens should live in fear of going to 7-11 to get a slurpee because of their broken home? A lot of people get tough breaks in life, but they dont all become criminals. We've been treating criminals in the city with kid gloves for years and you see where that has gotten us.
Our house had been broken into so many times that we actually stopped buying nice things and took our personal laptops with us when leaving for work.
Its people like the poster above that prevent any movement on revamping the dc judicial system. Believe me i was a bleeding heart liberal when i moved to DC. I saw welfare policies in action in the city and got disgusted by the whole thing. I left DC as close to a blue dog democrat/moderate republican as i could get. But i suppose if you dont mind bending your life and freedoms to accomodate criminals "because they had a hard life" then eh, what the hell do i have to say about it.
The point of that post, anon 11:18, is that more buckets is not the solution which is what people like you seem to always be proposing.
You can triple the police presence, stiffen the sentences, but they're just going to keep coming out of that shitty pipeline as long as that pipeline continues to be broken and you're still going to get your house broken into.
Then what? You end up having a prison system that would grow to be the size of Arkansas and random break ins, robberies and the like continue to happen.
I'll excuse your shortsightedness due to your recent transformation to the republican side.
Sorry, Reed, I have to agree with anonymous. Things are being tried your way with no improvements. Think about this, if you keep doing things the same way, you're going to get the same results. A multi-pronged solution is needed. And I'll excuse your analogy that is calling them shit as soon as they come out of the womb.
Things are not being tried my way. Even if they were, you would not see results right away.
Anon 11:18 said...
Well if you want to solve the problem at the source, lets start with this:
1. Stop incentivizing teens (and adults) who cannot afford to take care of children to get pregnant. Every day on thar D4, i saw teen/ young moms dragging at least one, sometimes 2 kids behind them. Someone please give them a condom and stop making me pay (via taxes) for kid #s 2,3,4... if you cant take care of'em dont have 'em.
2. Fix DC schools. Tell politicians to get out of unions' pockets and on the side of kids. Who cares if charter schools take over the entire system?! When private sector companies are projecting how many prisons to build based
on the DC eighth grade literacy
rates, politicians should be ashamed of
themselves!
I think everyone has a point here. As long as more babies = more welfare money, a lot of problems won't be solved. DC schools are an embarrassment despite the fact that we spend more money per student than almost every school system in the country. Also, the revolving door on our jails and juvenile homes ensure that repeat offenders will continue their criminal activites without fear of real punishment.
Fix the schools, spend more of our welfare budget on job training and parenting classes, make parents accountable for their children and teach them the skills they need to provide and care for their families.
One thing I will disagree with is the tired 'hard life is an excuse for crime' argument. For every criminal's sob story I know someone who had it worse and still grew up to be a law-abiding productive adult.
Anon 11:18 also says...
And in the meantime, law abiding citizens should not be terrorized by neighborhood kids. Period.
Their rights stop where another person's begins. All the other sob story drivel about their hard life is difficult to listen to when my wife is afraid to relax in her own home.
Nobody is telling anyone to condone their criminal behavior. I'm telling you why this behavior continues.
I agree with the previous posts where it will take a combination of a little bit of everything to get the system fixed.
We should be understanding of kids who commit crimes, and increase spending on programs to rehabilitate them, etc...
Kids who are over the age of 14 and commit crimes of violence, or while armed should be locked up until they're 40. Sorry, but the vast majority of disadvantaged kids *aren't* committing violent crimes.
In fact their assertion that "forty of their classmates" are waiting in the wings is disgusting, bordering on racist. Certainly classist.
Violent criminal behavior is like a virus. If you don't remove the kids who are committing violent crimes from their schools/peers quickly, it spreads. And for every violent 15, 16, or 17 year old we refrain from prosecuting because "he never had a chance" you're destroying the chances of every other kid in his peer group that he's going to prey on.
Lock them up til they're forty and let the other kids have a chance at a future.
One other thing: the cry "Fix the Schools!" is ridiculous. You may as well just bray "Fix The Poverty!" We can have poverty mitigation programs, but there are always going to be poor people. You fix poverty in the case of individuals. And if those individuals get "fixed" they move to MD and buy a nice suburban house. And other people fall into poverty.
Historically, when you become poor, you move into DC (or stay). When you become middle-class, you move out to the suburbs. With that model, you're never going to fix the schools. Because poor schools are shitty schools.
If you want to fix the schools (and every other DC public service) you need to ensure that regional poverty is spread around the region--not concentrated in two wards of the District of Columbia.
It's like the dynamic where you have a high poverty neighborhood. That high poverty neighborhood is also high crime. There's trash littering the streets. Windows are broken. There aren't any decent retail or grocery options. The residents demand something be done. "Fix Our Neighborhood!"
Over time the neighborhood becomes gentrified. There's less trash on the streets. Suddenly the abandoned buildings with broken windows are renovated. Beautiful clean grocery stores open. Crime plummets.
There is nothing the government can do to "Fix The Neighborhood" any more than it can "Fix The Schools". Broken neighborhood is a function of concentrated poverty. Broken school is a function of concentrated poverty. Broken DMV is a function of concentrated poverty. Etc...
Anon said
Violent criminal behavior is like a virus. If you don't remove the kids who are committing violent crimes from their schools/peers quickly, it spreads.
That's fine if anybody is naive enough to think that there are only a few "bad apples" in these schools.
That's fine if anybody is naive enough to think that there are only a few "bad apples" in these schools
There are a lot of kids who have the potential to become bad apples. Whether because of peer pressure, or retaliatory violence, or whatever. It's not that they're intrinsically worse than other kids (some kind of bad seed).
But the vast majority of poor kids are good kids who aren't going to engage in criminal behavior. But the minority of bad kids fuck up the good kids' lives a whole Hell of a lot more than they fuck up the lives of middle-class grown-ups who post here.
And frankly, the adults who are tolerant of this behavior do a Hell of a lot more harm to DC kids than the law-and-order types. The victims of these violent youths are, predominantly, other youths.
Reed;
They can't engage in predation of decent people while they are in prison. Specific deterrence. If they have to stay there for 40 years to get this nonsense out of their systems, so be it.
The US imprisons way more of its population that almost anywhere. Pretty sure it is the most of any developed country. And our prisons are overcrowded. We need to build more prisons to alleviate the overcrowding and then we need to build even more to lock up petty thieves.
There really is no solution.
When people get desperate enough, they steal. They probably would rather be upstanding citizens, but they have no road to get there. I guess we can figure that out after we figure out how to get all the law abiding people who are out of work back to work.
Shit happens. Most of us here could probably live in a "safe" place if we really want to, if it exists. It's an informed decision we made. Keep your head on a swivel
The US imprisons way more of its population that almost anywhere. Pretty sure it is the most of any developed country. And our prisons are overcrowded.
The US prisons are overcrowded because we incarcerate an insane number of non-violent drug offenders. This, obviously, is a travesty. And part of that travesty is that violent criminals get relatively short sentences because available prison space is taken up by non-violent drug offenders.
The problem is not that we lock up too many people, but rather that we're hysterical about the failed Drug War, and so lock up the wrong people.
Oh, please. All the 'schools don't fix it' crowd needs to get a grip. A good education is an excellent way to get people out of poverty. There are enough success stories of poor kids going to charter schools to support this assertion. If you don't think so, fine. Don't complain about crime and move back to Reston where you belong.
Kids going to sub-standard schools with sub-standard teachers have no chance. Some of the kids on my street can't put together a coherent sentence. You're never going to get a job that way.
You're also not going to get rid of poverty by simply handing out money. Sure I'll find a way to pay my increased tax bill, but I'll do it by not going out to dinner, not shopping and not taking a cab. Way to go, the most marginalized folks in our society with the lowest paying jobs will suffer. Oh, and eventually you'll run out of my money. Then what?
Remember, it's easy to make something difficult...and genius to make it simple.
I love how every commenter thinks every other reader is interested in their incisive analysis or opinion. Reality: no one is. Quintessential DC: everyone's an expert in everything (almost no one is) and the arrogance of your average Joe Blow is off the charts. Oh, but by all means, please do tell us what else we should think about X.
you're absolutely right Anon 8:40! Lets continue to do nothing in our community and allow this to continue.
Obviously you care enough to read through the comments and comment about our comments, so get over yourself.
i love how anon 8:40 is such an expert on folks that aren't experts.
what a ding dong.
Oh, please. All the 'schools don't fix it' crowd needs to get a grip. A good education is an excellent way to get people out of poverty. There are enough success stories of poor kids going to charter schools to support this assertion.
First, there are success stories of poor kids going to charter schools who "succeed". There are success stories of poor kids going to traditional DCPS schools who "succeed". Even the most poverty-stricken, underperforming DCPS schools have 15-25% of their students reading and doing math at grade level.
But I don't think that's what you're talking about. You seem to be arguing that, if we just somehow "fix the schools" we can get high-poverty schools to the point where the same numbers of kids are successful as in middle-class schools. And that's just not supported by any evidence.
The one outlier is KIPP, and those schools a) have and incredibly self-selecting parental cohort; and b) have strict behavior codes that make it easy for them to toss out troublemakers.
You can't apply this as a general solution for the same reason every state can't eliminate taxes and emulate Delaware. Their advantage comes from being able to drive the "bad" elsewhere and thereby attract the "good."
The problem with the "schools fix it" crowd is that some insipid hand-waving about "Fix The Schools!" doesn't get us anywhere.
Oh, please. All the 'schools don't fix it' crowd needs to get a grip. A good education is an excellent way to get people out of poverty. There are enough success stories of poor kids going to charter schools to support this assertion.
It's not some sort of corporatist plot that keeps the schools from getting fixed; it's the fact that poverty sucks (which is why we spend so much money trying to alleviate it) and therefore poor schools suck.
No kid should have to attend a shitty school, but the only way you fix that is by sending poor kids to middle-class schools. And you do that either by giving all poor people lots of money (making them not poor) or by giving them housing vouchers so that they can move to middle-class neighborhoods.
This chicken-and-egg debate about children raised in poverty and bad schools creating criminals is fascinating and all, but just in reference to the OP: according to WaPo, (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-police-charge-man-with-holding-up-same-store-four-times/2013/02/06/7e45c7ce-70ab-11e2-a050-b83a7b35c4b5_story.html?hpid=z6) this Upstanding Citizen was 53 years old, and is suspected as being the same individual who robbed the same 7-11 in Dec and twice in Nov. And he apparently didn't even have a gun, just a wooden handle sewed into his jacket pocket. I don't know whether to be impressed at his dedication or awed by his habitual stupidity. His most recent haul was $35 and four packs of Newports, which was apparently insufficient for his girlfriend; he was arrested heading back to the 7-11 that same evening to acquire more cash.
I personally feel much better if this was in fact a one-man incompetent crime spree fixated on the 7-11, rather than 4 different "hooligans" with moderate success.
In any event, the lifetime failures of a 53-year-old will not be solved with better schools. Y'all are a bunch of ageists, assuming it was a young person.
I don't think anyone said a young person was responsible for the 7-11 robbery. Somebody asked why the judicial system is so messed up. The comments are various people's opinion why.
Also, that 53 year old probably went to bad schools.
Reed for Tea Party President!
I love how everybody on here is an expert on everything.
I love how everybody on here is an expert on everything.
So weird how some people know things about stuff and stuff.
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