Attend either one, both presentations are the same. Concerns are:
-urban design
-uses
-parking
-greening
-historic preservation
When: Monday May 14th 3:30-5:20 & 6-8pm
Where: Jordan Student Academic Center
Room 1011
800 Florida Ave NE (parking in the Field House lot)
13 comments:
That was interesting. And looking at the results of the earlier session I think a lot of people who currently own or work at the market were there, 'cause in the late session most of the votes for the 'historic core' were for 'industrial/wholesale' use...while at the late session 'farmer's market' won out and not many people voted for 'industrial/wholesale'.
Sorry, I meant the early session voters wanted 'industrial/wholesale'.
so.... if the early sessioners win, then the market remains a place dedicated to people that work from the early morning to the early afternoon.
i, for one, would like to see some decent/safe/economically viable eveing activities, other than drug dealing and prostitution.
sorry to say, but the $$$ is going to win on this one.
just like they kicked the farmers market from the site where the national archives building now stands (they did that in the 1930's), so will this place be kicked out due to new economic circumstances.
let's just try and guide it so that it's cool.
oh, and i forgot evening shootings too.
nah, gimme something else. i grew up in a big city, so i don't need fringe/nefarious activity nearby to feel like i'm not in iowa anymore.
gimme gritty, but not to the point where folks are killed and raped.
i know it sounds really cool to you transplants from little suburban villages from midwestern states, but this is real.
folks like me have to live with this for many, many, many years to come.
if you want to feel like some kind of inner city maverick, prince george's county has it's arms wide open...
Stutterer 8:52, were you there at the meeting yesterday? These blog posts usually generate a lot of spouting off but the attendance at the meeting was pretty sparse.
stutterer, relaaaax!! take a deep breath and enter the no spin zone (not the Bill O'Reilly one). contrary to your suggestion, i highly doubt the anti-new towners are FOR rape, murder, prostitution, drug dealing, etc. pretty nice spin, but you only need half a brain to see how idiotic those statements are.
are comments from yesterday's discussions posted anywhere? thanks
I don't think anything is posted anywhere, but they did say they would try to post the questions online so people can still give feed-back even if they could not attend.
I agree that there is the potential for crime at night at the market. But at some point we have to expect our police department to actually enforce the laws, do surveillance, etc. We can't expect the individual or the merchant to do everything.
Sure, I'd prefer something more retail and open to the public at night.
But blaming the merchants there for crime isn't really totally fair.
But if there is prostitution and such at night there maybe merchants could be asked to put up surveillance cameras. These are a lot cheaper than they used to be, and a lot better.
One interesting finding in some locations with cameras is that prostitutes prefer to work in front of them because it is safer (i.e. it may deter potentially violent johns from acting on those impulses).
"stutterer the 'apparent troller'" wrote: gimme gritty, but not to the point where folks are killed and raped.
Maybe people wouldn't think you were trolling if you'd stop filling all your posts with ad hominems and sarcastic exaggeration. I mean, if your points are valid, they're valid without taking the argument off a cliff, aren't they?
As an example, concerning your above comment, you may be interested in the fact that according to the MPD, in the last two years (as far back as their online mapping application goes), there have been exactly zero murders or rapes at the Capitol City Market -- one rape nearby on New York Avenue. That's it. Does that mean the Market as is is safe at night? Of course not -- it isn't. I'm merely suggesting that people would take your arguments a little more seriously if they were constituted from something other than hyperbole. As it is, they come across as noise.
point taken, chris.
i'll back everything up with facts from now on.
i'm not trolling, i'm just concerned.
it's like the intersection where the little girl got run over.
nobody really does or says anything until something really bad happens. and believe me, the market is ripe for that.
i can't tell you the stuff that i've seen there after hours, when folks aren't perusing litteri's, or enjoying the 'grit'.
i don't think it takes a horrible incident for folks to rethink the future of the place.
and yes, i've had blood splattered on my car as i was driving through the market. it was a fight between two totally intoxicated guys fighting in the midddle of the street. they dented my car, and pounded each other's faces on my hood. amongst other things.
it's one thing to say it's 'so neat' when you only do tours on the weekend during daylight hours, and another thing when you live next door to it.
it's decay, and a breeding ground for folks that really don't care about living in NE. most folks that work there live in MD.
they work there in the early morn, and leave at night, only to let residents deal with a huge empty playground for vermin.
can't prove that. you just have to live next door to the place.
but i'm sure the weekend treks to litteri's are great for folks that live elsewhere.
Inked: I'd never considered cameras being used in that way. Interesting observation...
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