Saturday, July 19, 2008

Return of the Checkpoint

I'm assuming this will just be a safety checkpoint, and not like the headline grabbing checkpoints [who can say], but police are, as I type, setting up a checkpoint at Oates and Holbrook. This is roughly a block, or less, from where a male was shot last night.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

lame. you think these idiots are going to be stopped by a road block, ex post facto? NOT.

they'll wait till the cops leave, and go about their business, AGAIN.

cops are like ants. they wait till the killing is done, and then they jump in.

only to leave to their little suburban palace at the end of the day.

i know. i won't discuss it here, but from my experience, dc cops consider dc a lost cause. i've heard it first hand. from a "dc" cop that lives in MD, and could give a shit less about the district.

in his words, "... i care about babies, the rest is just a day's work".

go groomes, you loser.

Russ said...

What do you want her to do? Make a list of your grand ideas that will solve the problem and post it. You think it is so easy. Once you solve the DC crime problem can you then make a list of solutions to get us out of Iraq. I am sick of going there.

Anonymous said...

Nah poop, you are the loser. You talked to one cop out of 3800 and assume that you got the dope.

I've known Groomes a loooooooog time and she cares very much about this community. She was one of the forces that got the Sherwood Rec Center built. If the police can get the real support of the politicians, and court system they will make a difference.

Anonymous said...

wow. i really believe you, anon 6:39.

get a tag, a life, and a line.

otherwise, adios, loser #2.

and please, back up your "crap", it you can, it might make people pay attention. just saying....

Anonymous said...

Inked, you said, "I'm assuming this will just be a safety checkpoint, and not like the headline grabbing checkpoints [who can say]..." How can you distinguish between the two?

You were one if I recall, among many others, that had some serious constitutional concerns about these checkpoints, while the entire weekend they were in place there was not one murder. I'm just wondering if some of you are having second thoughts about those "Safety Checkpoints" now that a 13 year old kid has been killed. So how do you feel about them now? Can't you see that sometimes the ends justify the means? Bravo for Kathy Lanier saying that she will have checkpoints until a judge tells her to stop. Its a shame so many still question their motives. I would feel guilty if I had been one of the ones that said the checkpoint was a violation of my civil/constitutional rights. Hell, sometimes we give up some civil rights in the name of safety and I believe its selfish to think otherwise. SHAME on those who did not want "Safety Checkpoints"!

Anonymous said...

.... or even "headline grabbing checkpoints".

Anonymous said...

Answer: Many cops (more like four, not two) on foot. Not in cars, on bikes, or Segways. On foot, getting to know the neighbors and roaming the blocks. At all hours.

Unknown said...

Having just gotten home a short while ago they are just like the ones before, maybe more intense.

I live here and I welcome them.

-Robby

Alan Page said...

anon @ 10:23. a 24 hour police state might guarantee a sharp curtailing of crime outdoors, but it would also mean the end of your freedom in this country as you know it. a lot of people aren't interested in that trade off. a lot of very young people have died in wars under the belief that they were protecting freedoms that would be surrendered in that trade-off.

it's not a simple either/or, there are numerous other non-checkpoint law enforcement options available, like more foot patrols, more bike patrols, strategies to increase police response time, more citizen involvement, etc. someone saw something. someone always does. we need people to step up...then we need the system as a whole to operate more efficiently...better processing, better crime lab techniques, less bureaucracy (things like that water barrel requirement for gun possession charges to apply need to be eliminated), etc.

checkpoints alone don't do it...this is a systemic issue...

i didn't even speak on coordination of social services...

inked said...

Anon 1023,
safety checkpoint are definitely Constitutional. They involve things like checking for seatbelts, sobriety, ect. MPD actually used some of those in Trinidad during the period when they used the controversial checkpoints. And shame on you are for trotting out the lame argument that the checkpoints worked because there were no shootings that weekend.
1. most weekends there are no shootings in Trinidad
2. if the neighborhood is swarming with cops and media it is pretty hard to shoot someone and escape. But then the police will leave and nothing will change.

Imagine that I have a problem with different people always parking their cars in my driveway. So one Saturday I decide to take a lawnchair and sit in my driveway all day. I note that during that period no one parks in my driveway, and I declare Operation Lawnchair a big success. Do you see the problem here?

Anonymous said...

operation lawnchair! Brilliant. I nominate inked for police chief.

Anonymous said...

Inked - worst arguement ever

While you are correct there is not a shooting everynight in Trinidad. You miss the point that Trinidad has one of the highest crime rates out of all the areas in the city!

inked said...

That depends on how you qualify highest [i.e. how many neighborhoods, and over what period of time]. But still, my point is that checkpoints are ineffective in the long term. What was your point?

inked said...

My other point is that it's just stupid to claim that the checkpoints were a success because nobody was killed while the checkpoints were in force. I just doesn't pan out.