Ok, as you could no doubt tell, I was feeling pretty strongly about the AutoZone thing last night. I think that's justified given their track record. I hope everyone read the comments because they provide a little context on the ANC 6A /AutoZone conflict that has been going on for the past several years.
I'm just going to add a few things right now because I'm tired:
1. Someone just sent me a post from the MPD-1 listserv. Here it is, with minor redactions:
From: ***************
To: MPD-1D@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 9:57:56 PM
Subject: RE: [MPD-1D] AutoZone Parking Tickets
Police officers from other than 1D are, on occasion, at the request of AutoZone, writing tickets at this location and facilitating towing.
From: MPD-1D@yahoogroups. com [mailto:MPD- 1D@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Kamperin, David (MPD)
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:44 PM
To: MPD-1D@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [MPD-1D] AutoZone Parking Tickets
Regarding private property- yes we can write parking tickets on private property if the owner complains. Although we can do this I am not familiar that we are doing so at this location.
Commander David K. Kamperin
First District
101 M St SW
Washington, DC 20024
Office: (202) 729-2037
Fax: (202) 442-8005
From: MPD-1D@yahoogroups. com [mailto:MPD- 1D@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of ******
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:08 PM
To: MPD-1D@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [MPD-1D] AutoZone Parking Tickets
There's a fair bit of complaining on Frozen Tropics (website) about $250 parking tickets being issued by MPD for vehicles parked after hours in the AutoZone lot at 1207 H Street NE. Can MPD confirm or deny this? Can MPD legally write parking tickets for vehicles on private property?
I don't really know where the guy writing the last response got that info. Maybe it's from what he's physically seen? If officers from other police districts are hanging out over there and issuing parking tickets, well...that would seem a bit odd to me.
2. I don't think AutoZone has any obligation to allow people (for free, or otherwise) to park on their lot. It is private property, but I find it annoying that they can be so aggressive about targeting people parking there after hours, but somehow can't do anything to stop the illegal work and dumping going on while they are open.
3. Here is a post from Drew Ronneberg (ANC for 6A02) that he left in the comments:
For years, Autozone hasn't taken substantial measures to prevent the illegal mechanics from operating in their parking lot despite several community efforts to compel DCRA to enforce DC law.
To get DCRA to fine Autozone or revoke their C of O revoked will require the community to document illegal car repairs over a number of weeks and months. DCRA won't take significant action unless we can demonstrate that the illegal work is a pattern rather than a few isolated instances.
Establishing this pattern will require:
1) Photographic evidence of car repairs being performed in the Autozone lot. I understand that the "mechanics" will often purchase parts from the Autozone and then perform repairs in the lot. If the same "mechanic" shows up over and over, it will help establish that the people are operating an illegal business with the implicit approval of the Autozone management.
2) People calling in complaints to 311 with descriptions of the illegal work being performed and a description of the person. If you call in a complaint, please get a trouble ticket number.
If you are interested in helping to document the illegal mechanics at Autonzone, please email me at ronneberg6a02@gmail.com. I would greatly appreciate if neighbors could send me photos and trouble ticket numbers so I can keep following up with DCRA on this issue.
Best Regards,
Drew Ronneberg
Commissioner 6A02
202 431-4305
4. A Comment left by Joe Fengler, who was the ANC for 6A02 until he had to retire because he moved out of his Single Member District:
said... Auto Zone has been a problem for many years. When I was a commissioner, I tried to get MDP and DCRA to enforce the regulations that prohibit illegal motor vehicle repair businesses to operate in the Auto Zone parking lot. DCRA actually requires business permits for vehicle repair businesses so that the environmental requirements can be enforced. Why I was not successful to implement a long term solution can be narrowed down to three issues. First, MPD does not like to write 61D violations (a general term for minor infractions). From their perspective, the larger issue of deterring violent crime is more important. Second, when pressed, Auto Zone refuses to implement any long term solution to this problem. They "believe" that once a customer leaves the store - the parking lot is not their concern (which is wrong, but they haven’t suffered any consequences). Third, in the past, H Street CDC says they aren't responsible for the behavior of their tenant (which like above, is not exactly enlightened from a organization that is devoted to the development of H Street).
To the second point, in November 2005, the ANC successfully got the DCRA to engage the Office of the Attorney General to send a letter to the Corporate Headquarters of Auto Zone informing them that they are not in compliance with their Certificate of Occupancy. As a result, there were a few meetings with the DCRA Zoning Department and Auto Zone. In the end, Auto Zone promised to comply and DCRA didn't take any action.
It is my opinion that to solve this problem, DCRA needs to get actively involved at making sure Auto Zone complies with their business license and certificate of occupancy - which does not allow repairs at their location with the current license and CofO. Candidly speaking, this is an election year and this seems to be an issue the Mayor’s office would love to solve. If there was enough momentum to get the Mayor’s office to demand that DCRA act, DCRA could fine or suspend the Auto Zone CofO. That would directly impact the bottom line. So, here is what I would do:
1. Mayor’s Service Call Center. Every time someone sees an illegal repair, call 311 and file a compliant. Make sure they give you a trouble ticket number. Make sure you specify that Auto Zone is allowing illegal repairs in their parking lot that is not in compliance with their Certificate of Occupancy issued by DCRA. That way the Call Center will know where to route the trouble ticket.
2. Meeting at the Auto Zone Parking Lot. Email Alex Rotan, Ward 6 Outreach and Services Specialist liaison for the Mayor's Office (alex.rotan@gmail.com) and ask him to meet with the community at the parking lot to discuss the issue. Also reach out to your new Commissioner Drew Ronneberg to have him attend (I like this retired stuff…)
3. Notify DCRA. Send an email to Linda Argo (linda.argo@dc.gov), Director of DCRA, and notify her that once again illegal repairs are taking place at Auto Zone and that you are requesting monitoring and enforcement. Remind her that in November 2005, the OAG (Nicholas Majett, nicholas.majett@dc.gov) sent Auto Zone a letter requesting that their business comply with the zoning laws of the District of Columbia.
Bottom line, if a dozen or so trouble ticket numbers are generated and presented to Mr. Alex Rotan that will help the Mayor’s office to demand that DCRA enforce the zoning regulations.
Here are few letters sent back in the day:
http://www.anc6a.org/SMD02/AutoZoneInvest.pdf
http://www.anc6a.org/SMD02/HStAlley6Alet.pdf
Regards, Joe Fengler
37 comments:
I hate to beat a dead horse, but Autozone and the H St CDC do in fact owe the community use of that parking lot.
Legally? Maybe not.
But ethically and morally, absolutely.
H Street CDC willingly accepted taxpayer funds in order to facilitate the Autozone deal and the other deals H Street has done in the area.
Taxpayers literally paid H Street CDC's salaries.
And Autozone was given a lease there based on that taxpayer largesse.
They benefitted directly from it. Not just from the fact that H St CDC got taxpayer money. But also in the very structuring of the deal - Autozone was, according to people I've talked to - given a special sweetheart deal lease there, made possible by the fact that the land was essentially given to H St CDC by taxpayers, and with an assumption that they would be good neighbors.
When you get a sweetheart deal because of taxpayer funding you have an obligation to be a good neighbor.
And being a good neighbor includes letting your unused huge parking lot be used for parking when the city grossly mismanages a streetscaping project and cuts off parking for months and years on end.
Is there a legal requirement to be a good neighbor? Probably not. Particularly since we are talking about the DC government here, and they have a habit of giving away taxpayer resources and money without requiring any sort of accountability or follow-up.
I find it very unlikely that H St CDC can't pressure Autozone to allow use of the lot after hours, particularly if the lease is coming up for renewal as some have suggested.
It's more likely that they just don't want to.
And I don't buy the liability argument. If Autozone was really concerned about liability you'd think they'd stop facilitating the repair of vehicles on their property. After all, couldn't someone that paid for a 'mechanic' that is obviously working with Autozone's permission come back and sue Autozone when that unlicensed mechanic messes up their car and they end up wrecking and causing real damage to themselves or others?
This hasn't been a concern for Autozone for years, so why should the theoretical liability of someone parking in the lot at night be an issue?
It'll be a shame if this is what the H Street CDC is remembered for, instead of the very real good they've done in the area (albeit with a whole bunch of poor planning and money wasted along the way).
I'm really amused by the irony...
-"The city should enforce its laws against 'mechanics' making minor repairs in the parking lot!"
vs.
-"The city is ticketing and towing cars parked without permission on private property! I demand answers! They can't do that! It's my lot because I pay taxes even though someone else rents the lot!"
Ya' can't have it both ways and be fair. The entitlement expressed by some in the other thread is really entertaining.
BTW, the Verizon Center was built with public money, as was the baseball stadium. We should demand free entry to those venues! After all, *our* tax dollars built them, so they have an ethical responsibility to let us use it how we see fit!
...even better: the Verizon Center has a parking garage. Since the garage and venue were built with my tax dollars, I will demand to park there whenever I want to after-hours, when the venue is closed.
I'm not completely sure I agree that the police can ticket cars on private property. Autozone should be free to call a private tow company to remove the vehicles, and potentially could sue the owners of the cars for trespass, but I'm really bothered by the idea that the City is issuing parking tickets. I'd love to see someone challenge one of the tickets.
12/f - fact check
Actually, the Verizon Center was financed and paid for by Abe Pollin. The city leased the land.
I'm not completely sure I agree that the police can ticket cars on private property.
Per Commander David Kamperin, the big cheese at MPD-1D: "Regarding private property- yes we can write parking tickets on private property if the owner complains."
"BTW, the Verizon Center was built with public money, as was the baseball stadium. We should demand free entry to those venues! After all, *our* tax dollars built them, so they have an ethical responsibility to let us use it how we see fit!"
If a ton of the street parking at those locations was torn up by the city and there was an easy way to allow residents and visitors to park in the ballpark parking, then, yes, they should try to work with the neighborhood.
Of course, the logistics are a little harder, as baseball game and event schedules are far less predictable than the unchanging hours the Autozone is open.
But you are missing one distinction.
The ballpark is a for-profit outfit. They never claimed to be in it just for the benefit of the neighborhood.
H Street CDC is non-profit, and their stated mission is community development. That was their sales pitch when they asked for taxpayer money.
MPD can tickets on private land. If someone parks on your lot you can called parking enforcement. They may, or may not actually show...but if they do (and you are around) they will issue a ticket to the offending vehicle. Part of the shock here is that the tickets are now about 10 x more expensive than they used to be.
"Ya' can't have it both ways and be fair. The entitlement expressed by some in the other thread is really entertaining."
Yes, I do feel entitled to have nonprofit community groups whose salary I am paying actually try to work with the community when asked.
If that's entitlement, consider me guilty.
Police officers from other than 1D are, on occasion, at the request of AutoZone, writing tickets at this location and facilitating towing.
Skip Coburn is a member of the 1D Citizens Advisory Council (CAC). Chances are high that his statement is verifiable.
In my experience jurisdiction is not heavily weighed when it comes to writing parking tickets. Especially when the 1D/5D boundary is two blocks to the east.
Not on Parker,
that's true about Skip Coburn. It's also true that any officer can write a ticket.
But what would 5-D officers be doing just hanging out in 1-D writing parking tickets. The situation makes me wonder if AutoZone might not have an arrangement similar to what H Street has with the paid supplemental officers.
I just got a $20 ticket for parking in front of a building entrance with no parking sign. This is was at Dupont Circle. I think it was pretty cheap. Garage parking costs around the same in that area. Charging $250 is a bit too much for Auto Zone parking lot is all I am saying
I just got a $20 ticket for parking illegally in front of a building entrance at Dupont Circle. That was pretty cheap. $250 is a lot for parking violation on Autozone lot is all I am saying.
But what would 5-D officers be doing just hanging out in 1-D writing parking tickets.
You know what's across the street from AutoZone? Popeye's. You know who eats there a lot? Officers on the 1D and 5D beats. You know where they park and eat? AutoZone.
Speaking of, has anyone actually received or seen one of these illustrious tickets?
Not on Parker,
are you really suggesting that the officers are stopping to get chicken and then hopping up from their meals to go ticket people parking in the same lot where they are parked? I guess it's possible, but it doesn't seem like the most likely explanation here.
People are receiving thse tickets. Some of the bar owners have seen them, and someone sent me an email (but not a photo) stating that when he walked by after 11pm last night he saw tickets on several cars in the AutoZone lot.
are you really suggesting that the officers are stopping to get chicken and then hopping up from their meals to go ticket people parking in the same lot where they are parked?
I was kidding, though didn't make that clear...
I wasn't sure whether that was a joke or not.
But the tickets are definitely for real.
not on parker:
If they were eating donuts I think people would have gotten the joke.
I personally see nothing wrong with AutoZone having a chain to block the entrance to the parking lot after hours, but they don't. The signs are not really obvious, that I can recall. It seems to me to be a racket and a money machine. I wonder who is really getting the money. I also wonder if anyone has/or is willing to challenge the tickets in court?
Autozone has uniformed MPD guys working there as secuirty. I wouldn't doubt that the off-duty cops working secuirty happen to be the same on-duty cops writing the tickets.
If a car has to be ticketed before it can be towed,
wouldn't it be interesting to see if a few cops were writing most of these tickets,
and then the same towing company was being called - and taking the cash.
Anybody working on commission?
There have been more than a few scandals with DC towing companies in the past.
Just wondering.
Anon 5:12,
I've heard of cars being ticket on the AZ lot, but I haven't heard of any being towed from that location.
I live on Linden and see cars getting towed from the AZ lot all the time.
On Friday/ Saturday nights i've seen queues of 3-4 towtrucks lined up to take away vehicles.
Looks like the riff raff has got the wind of the free shuttle. I just took a ride and some dude was all stretched out in the back and serving himself with a 3 course meal and stinking up the entire bus of fried chicken. I don't mind riff raffs using the shuttle as long as they respect fellow passengers. Can he not wait a few minutes? The driver didn't say anything. There should be no food and drinks policy in the bus that size. Soon there will be no difference between X2 and the shuttle.
My first experience with these AutoZone parking lot mechanics was when one left a car battery and container full of spent oil in my back yard. When I immediatly took the stuff to AutoZone, they said they wouldn't accept it because they were filled to capacity. Many oil containers, brake pads, tires and other car parts later, AutoZone throws up their hands as if there's nothing they can do.
One AutoZone mechanic has been working in and around the AutoZone lot since at least 2005. He is so cozy with AutoZone that he actually "works" behind the AutoZone parts counter (and solicits customers while he's at it). I will try to add photos of him to the pool.
It would be very easy for AutoZone to (1) stop letting mechanics work its parts counter and its own parking lot to solicit customers, and (2) direct its MPD officer to write tickets for the mechanics instead of ring up items. But they don't want to.
The MPD officer who works at AutoZone from late afternoon to closing time is usually the same guy, and he is not from 1D (over the years, only occasionally has someone substituted for him). He does everything from play cashier (yes, ringing up sales and bagging items) to write parking tickets in the parking lot (he usually yells, "Yo!" when he is outside to see a driver leave their car in the parking lot and head to the sidwalk), he is a jack of all trades.
About the only thing the MPD officer at AutoZone won't do is write tickets when mechanics are working in the AutoZone lot or on H Street, which, unfortunately, sets the tone for the area.
I agree they should not be giving out these outrageous parking tickets when the autozone is not even open. If autozone was smart they would put a guy in a booth out there to charge some reasonable fee like $5 for parking during the nights and weekends.
Also, I fail to see what people working on cars in the autozone parking lot has to do with parking tickets. I think the people who are complaining about this are a bunch of assholes frankly. Not everyone has the cash to go to a professional mechanic every time there car has some little problem and I don't see anything wrong with people who do have knowledge about cars helping out others for a small fee. In fact I think it's good for the community. The only legitimate complaint I have seen about it is regarding disposable of the waste which I agree the autozone should be taking care of or at least come up with some way to conveniently facilitate people doing the right thing with things like used oil and brake pads. Anyone writing letters complaining about people working on there cars and suggesting the be punished for it should be ashamed of themselves.
i am an asshole. but not because of the vehicle repairs on the lot. the problem i have with the lot repairs is just a question of consistency. the sign that says no parking also says no working on cars in the lot. if you are going to ticket for one, you have to ticket for the other if they are posted on the same sign. aside from the litter concerns it's just again a question of consistency. it's clearly marked, so i don't park there unless they are closed, and i don't work on my vehicle.
the ticketing/ towing usually ends about a half hour after closing time (9:00). you have to be ticketed to be towed, and yes they do tow. one of the bartenders at the pug did get the $250 whammy. so if you get ticketed, then towed you're talking about $350. that's a lot of natty bo.
there are liability concerns which lead companies to not allow parking, i understand that. it would be nice if they were neighborly, but since they aren't, wait til closing time, then park.
i have a feeling police overtime will be coming up on frozen tropics soon, and will be discussed at great length, but the police at az are working an off duty, second job, while the h street safety patrol is an off duty/overtime thing, it's sort of hard to follow, but they are different.
just my observations from across the way
tonyt
asshole from the pug who dislikes litter, would prefer not to have the cars worked on, but is shamefully just a fan of consistency.
oh yeah, there's another fundraiser at the pug this saturday.
"The only legitimate complaint I have seen about it is regarding disposable of the waste which I agree the autozone should be taking care of or at least come up with some way to conveniently facilitate people doing the right thing with things like used oil and brake pads. "
There's a reason mechanics are licensed.
It's to get rid of the ones that have no idea what they are doing, aren't licensed and bonded, can't be held responsible should they mess up the car repair, etc.
Allowing unlicensed mechanics to operate in a parking lot is unfair to all the mechanics in DC that do go through the trouble of getting properly trained, licensed, and going through the expense of having an actual garage space.
Call me crazy, but I think even poor people should have access to licensed mechanics and should have some legal recourse should their mechanic screw their car up.
But then my main complaint isn't the 'mechanics'.
My main complaint continues to be the refusal to work with the community to allow parking in this lot when Autozone isn't using it.
@Hillman
Let me educate you a little because you obviously don't know what you are talking about.
"There's a reason mechanics are licensed."
Mechanics are not licensed. You don't need a license to be an auto mechanic. Some mechanics are ASE certified (maybe like 50%) but you don't have to be to get work in a shop. In fact you have to have two years of work experience before you can even get certified. No sort of formal training of any kind is required by law for auto mechanics in the district or anywhere else.
"can't be held responsible should they mess up the car repair, etc."
You can take the guy from the auto zone parking lot to small claims court just the same way you can if you get your car worked on at a garage. Yes, there are likely to be differences in the agreements and evidence you would likely have in each case however by there very nature they are not different. You can make a legally binding agreement in a parking lot just as easily as you can in a garage in the eyes of the law.
"I think even poor people should have access"
Leasing or owning a garage costs money. That cost is paid by the person needing their car serviced. It's pretty simple.
I'm not being down on garages at all. They have diagnostic tools lifts and all sorts of other tools that you need to do any more complex repairs. I think it's good to take you car to one if you can afford it and are to ignorant or simply don't have the time to maintain your own car. That isn't the case for everyone though.
@tonyt
"just a fan of consistency."
This crap about consistency is just childish and vindictive. It's also misplaced. The people working on their cars at autozone are not the ones keeping people from parking there at night. No justice is served by trying to punish them. Trying to get your neighbors in trouble because they are trying to fix their cars which they may need to get to work is just being a dick plain and simple. There are plenty of real criminals around to complain about. Why don't you call the cops or some gangsters rather than harassing people trying to make an honest buck.
If you really have a problem with the waste dumping why don't you come up with a solution and go down and talk to them about it.
Anon 9:24,
A couple of points:
1. Love them or hate them, the mechanics in the AutoZone lot are operating illegally (no biz license). There are various implications, like taxes, and insurance.
2. One big difference between heading to Pep Boys and going to the guy in the lot is what recourse you have in the case of negligence. What if the guy installs your new brake pedals wrong. If that happens at Pep Boys you have assets you can reach. The guy in the lot...maybe not so much. Small claims court works for small claims. It ain't so great if you are injured, or the repairs fails and causes an accident.
Anonymous @ 1:22, if you're going to direct the word "asshole" at someone, why not direct it at AutoZone instead of your fellow Frozen Tropics commentariat and neighbors? After all, AutoZone is the one telling its rented cop to selectively ticket bar patrons who park in its mostly empty lot at night, but not the mechanics who camp out there all day and make the lot and block look like a dump (and facilitate those guys's violations of business license, tax, public street and zoning laws in the process, by the way).
Besides, doesn't the whole mechanic issue play into the gist of the discussion here, which is that AutoZone is a bad neighbor on H Street?
not being vindictive, i can't write slowly but if you were listening i would speak slowly. i have no problem with the parking tickets. it's clearly marked, no parking. same sign. i don't park in a no parking zone, or work on my car in a no work zone. oh, by the way, richard, i'm not trying to get anyone in trouble. follow the posted signs, enforce the posted rules. no worries. i go to a garage for car work, and i park where it's legal. i don't want to see anyone get jammed up but follow the rules and everything will be fine. by the way, the cop working overtime at the az cannot leave to chase gangsters. he is on another detail and can't leave that post. if there's a gangster about causing problems dial 911. i pay dc, & follow the rules. not sure, but i think that's what an honest buck is.
tonyt
asshole, and vindictive dick from the pug
Let me continue, anon richard from 9:24. It would seem to me that inked and a lot of the posters are in fact trying to come up with a solution to the litter problem. They are trying to raise awareness of the problems and present them to az. It seems that curtailing curb side repairs would slow down curbside toxins. Seems as though they have identified the problem and are trying to figure out the best way to present it to an unresponsive az. I guess as extension of your argument, if you are so worried about people getting inexpensive car repairs you should open a cheap garage so you can help people fix their work transpo, trash toxins responsibly, and pay biz license fees and taxes so you can make an honest buck.
Tonyt
thepug
"Mechanics are not licensed. You don't need a license to be an auto mechanic. Some mechanics are ASE certified (maybe like 50%) but you don't have to be to get work in a shop. In fact you have to have two years of work experience before you can even get certified. No sort of formal training of any kind is required by law for auto mechanics in the district or anywhere else."
According the the DC law, they must be certified.
http://dcra.dc.gov/dcra/frames.asp?doc=/dcra/lib/dcra/information/publications/auto_repair_fact_sheet_v2.pdf
Yes, you can have someone working in an auto body shop that isn't certified, but they are working under the guidance and legal liability of the person holding the auto body shop license.
Autozone doesn't have a license as an auto body shop.
"You can take the guy from the auto zone parking lot to small claims court just the same way you can if you get your car worked on at a garage. Yes, there are likely to be differences in the agreements and evidence you would likely have in each case however by there very nature they are not different. You can make a legally binding agreement in a parking lot just as easily as you can in a garage in the eyes of the law."
Um, no. Not in real life. Chances are you can't track down the guy in the Autozone parking lot. What are you going do to? Serve him at his address in the parking lot? You certainly can't pursue the garage owner, since there isn't one.
And you can't threaten his business license or go after his insurance or bond surety, since he doesn't have one.
Yeah, okay, you guys are right about the business license. However, generally those are for people with an actual place of business though. Like a garage, not someone making a few extra bucks working on a friends car in a parking lot. That gets down to the scale of what is actually going on over there though, which I'm not in a position to say for sure. There is a lot of gray area and if someone really is truly running a full on auto repair business out of the lot over there they probably shouldn't be.
@hillman
Yes, in real life you can take people to small claims court. If you don't even know someones name or where to find them you probably should be trusting them to do work on your car. That's a personal choice though. No case concerning auto repair liability is easy to win is easy to win and I did acknowledge having some buddy of yours work on it outside of a shop would make it harder. You are probably fucked either way though.
@inked
I honestly don't think any one is under the delusion that anyone but themselves is liable for any repairs done in the autozone parking lot. It's a one and a million chance that anyone is going to get hurt from a some simple auto repairs gone bad. Again that's peoples choice to make.
@tony
You don't seriously expect anyone to buy that consistency bit do you? I mean would you be complaining if the situation was reversed and they fined people working on their cars but not for parking there at night? I don't think so, don't insult our intelligence here. Look at it from a business perspective, you want them to hassle and drive off there own customers and then on top of that let your customers park free on their lot. If you and the other businesses in the area need the spaces in the evening for your customers that bad maybe you should make an offer to the autozone owner to rent out the lot or something. I don't know, but stop trying to pretend like it's all about fairness.
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Also, it occurred to me there might be a good reason that there is a steep fine for leaving your car overnight in that parking lot which is that they don't want the lot to become filled with broken down cars.
Look mostly I don't think people should be running a repair business out of that lot, however I don't want to be hassled or fined if I go over there and pop my own hood to fill up my windshield washer fluid or replace a headlight bulb.
All I'm saying is that the parking thing is a separate issue and that this eye for an eye stuff isn't any kind of way to act. It's only going to tick people off in the community.
Again anon, let me reiterate even more slowly. I don't expect az to let my customers park for free. I know that after about 930 one can park in the lot for free. It is not chained shut after closing time. As i've said repeatedly, it would be nice if they (az) were on board with the developments on h but since they aren't we have to move on. As to the consistency, i still hold to that. I'm not allowed to let customers leave with a drink. I don't agree with it but that's the rule, and i enforce it. az only chose to enforce some of the rules. Again to reiterate, and not insult anbody's intelligence, it would be nice if az worked with us but they don't. Park there at your own risk. I just wish they would be held accountable to regulations lkke we are in the bar business. As i've said repeatedly, i don't park there and i don't encourage my customers to do so either.
same thing happens at the autozone lot on rhode island avenue, on the 500 NE block. no idea if the neighborhood there is quite as engaged as H street is (probably not, due to the fact that light industrial isolates the business from homes more than the situation on H street.
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