Sunday, October 17, 2010
TBD: XII Faces Liquor License Opposition
TBD reports on ANC 6A's looming protest of the ABC license renewal of XII, a nightclub/tavern located at the corner of 12th and H Street. XII is the subject of an upcoming ABRA fact finding hearing following the physical assault of a woman in the club's bathroom. XII has also had numerous noise complaints, and these are largely the basis of the protest. The ANC's stated goal is not for XII to lose its license, but for XII and ANC 6A to enter in a new voluntary agreement with stricter regulations and penalties regarding noise.
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Sorry but how dumb is it to protest a license, but state up front that you don't really hope to win, only to cut a deal? Way to sell low.
Amy, if the neighbors don't think that the ANC position is tough enough, they can file a separate protest of their own.
The ANC is willing to negotiate with someone who has repeatedly violated his VA in the past. What assurance does the community have that he will pay any attention to a new VA?
If you want the place shut down, go for it. This is your best opportunity and your last chance for the next two years.
Amy, if the neighbors don't think that the ANC position is tough enough, they can file a separate protest of their own.
The ANC is willing to negotiate with someone who has repeatedly violated his VA in the past. What assurance does the community have that he will pay any attention to a new VA?
If you want the place shut down, go for it. This is your best opportunity and your last chance for the next two years.
Can't we just pay a dump truck to run into the place and destroy it.
I am sure one of those construction vehicles could just
"accidentally" take out 12. Then we could move on to hating other tax paying businesses, I don't know like Auto Zone. I've seem people openly use drugs on the 1300 block. Crowds are rowdy, but some how there that's okay. We should at least be fair. But hey what do I know I'm an idiot in ward 5.
i live across the alley from red and the black and there used to be noise from there all the time. i accepted the noise because it's a fricking bar. i complained a few times and the noise abated for a bit, but occasionally it returns. they play live rock music there. the noise abates at a somewhat reasonable hour, but geez louise people, if we want a thriving corridor, a bit of noise will come with it.
Blasphemy. I demand to have my cake and eat it too.
Fining XII and imposing 'stricter' regulations will do nothing.
If you think ABRA's processes for enforcing voluntary agreements is fun, you're going to love Fenty's plan to put the liquor board in charge of regulating medical marijuana dispensaries
if we want a thriving corridor, a bit of noise will come with it.
I think it's the regular ridiculous incidents that XII seems to attract that turn folks off. When we start getting bathroom beat-downs and drive-bys at the Red & Black, I'll be protesting their liquor license, too.
Does it suck that you can't open a place in DC with an urban vibe without attracting this kind of nonsense? Yep. At the end of the day, though, the situation is what it is.
@anon 9:36 Registering a 'protest' is the only way an ANC has any say in a liquor license. The neighborhood is only allowed to give a thumbs up or thumbs down recommendation to the ABRA. That's why you have the dance of 'protest' an unencumbered license followed by a voluntary agreement w/ the neighborhood followed by the ANC blessing.
Think of the protest as very specific pertaining only to that instance of the license, not a general protest such as no-war.
@dr pangloss
i know bars in adams morgan that have had their fair share of violent incidents. you add alcohol + adults and you always have the possibility for a melee/bar brawl. i mean, there was a death (allegedly a beating-induced death) outside dc9 just recently, for pete's sake. i would argue that the best way to eliminate violence on the corridor would be to eliminate bars and clubs entirely, since i have never heard of a bar brawl breaking out in a restaurant.
i just walked by VII literally 5 minutes ago and saw a police officer posted outside. security wise, what exactly do you expect them to do, perform rorschach tests on incoming patrons to measure their propensity to engage in fisticuffs when inebriated?
@ wylie coyote, one of our delays in opening red palace involves some serious soundproofing. Sorry if you were ever disturbed, we do our best to end shows at a reasonable hour & to limit the sound coming from our establishment. Hopefully the new soundproofing will make this a non-issue, but if you ever have a problem don't hesitate to call,
i mean, there was a death (allegedly a beating-induced death) outside dc9 just recently, for pete's sake.
The fact that the DC9 incident was enough of an outlier to elicit a "for pete's sake" says it all (plus the fact that the place was closed down).
How surprising will it be the next time there's gunplay outside of XII? Or someone's beaten/killed?
And, no, I have no problem with some of the shitholes in Adams-Morgan being closed down if they show a consistent history of violent incidents.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only incidents on H Street involving illegal firearms were related to XII.
There was an ABRA investigation of the discharge of a weapon outside XII after a party there. Not inside so XII was not held responsible but why was the person sitting outside with people who had just left the party at XII? Report is on the ANC6a website.
At this month's ANC meeting, the owner of XII discounted the second incident that happened this summer by saying that customers who had just left XII were the victims of an attempted car-jacking. But instead of calling the police and waiting for them, they fled at a high rate of speed up 12th Street. After they crashed their car into a jersey barrier, the cops found a TEC-9 and a 9mm handgun, both with extended magazines, in the car. Gee, wonder why they ran?
Do the other places on H Street attract patrons with assault-style weapons? How many others don't get caught?
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