Tuesday, June 16, 2009

Shooting in Carver Terrace

From the MPD 5-D listserv:

The Homicide Branch of the Criminal Investigations Division is currently investigating a homicide.

On Tuesday, June 16, 2009, at approximately 4:20 p.m., members of the Fifth District were dispatched to the 1000 block 17th Place, N.E., for the report of a shooting. Upon the arrival of the officers, they located the victim lying on the sidewalk unconscious and suffering from multiple gunshot wounds. The DCFD responded to the scene and transported the decedent to an area hospital. At 4:47 p.m., the victim succumbed to his injuries and was pronounced dead by the attending physician.

If anyone has any information regarding this crime, please call the Command Information Center on (202) 727-9099.

16 comments:

poo poo said...

Yet another reason the place should be bulldozed...

Anonymous said...

And here I thought the shooting happened in Trinidad section of D.C. Well atleast that's how it was reported this morning on the News. I say the NEWS have it out real badly for Trinidad.

the real deal poo poo said...

hey! that's not the *real* poo poo!

but i have to agree with the impostor.

cease and desist, malevolent!

Anonymous said...

I think that many of us, myself included, have become somewhat numb to these shootings and killings in our back yard. This is some scarry stuff. Let's not forget how absolutely dangerous our neighborhood really is.

Chris Metzler said...

Yeah, WJLA reported this as happening in Trinidad.

Anonymous said...

Seven years ago, I purchased a building on this generally quiet, one-way street. I transformed my building from a boarded-up blight on the block to a nice property. I have wonderful tenants who are all professionals. I am a senior staffer for a high-level official. Most of our neighbors are homeowners and are assets to the community. Like me, they call the police to report suspicious activities and attend community meetings. Our place needs to be "bulldozed" by law enforcement to protect us as good members of society and protect our properties. This entire city need to be "bulldozed" by parents, community leaders, and good citizens who do not allow young men to be raised in the streets, sell drugs, and shoot each other. We can all make a difference. Giving up is not an option.

poo poo said...

*they* have already given up.

you want me to go and buy a tenement joint and make it pretty?

trust me, i have much better PRODUCTIVE uses for time, thanks very much.

Anonymous said...

People usually give up when they deem themselves hopeless. Lack of education, jobs, skills, parenting, etc creates hopelessness. There's really no quick and easy answer because frankly a large segment of the DC community has been in a hopeless state for a very long time. One only needs to go to the neighborhood grocery or drug store to know that clearly alot of people have been "left behind". The answer is not to bulldoze where these people live because they'll go elsewhere and perhaps closer to those who wish they would disappear. I submit that the long term solution is education. Perhaps when enough people who look different than the ones that have been here the longest begin making enough noise about the education system, the result will be that we all will have a safer community. It seems to me that no one with any real power has really given a flip whether or not the same young Black men that are now "terrorizing" the neighborhood got a good education.

oboe said...

"The answer is not to bulldoze where these people live because they'll go elsewhere and perhaps closer to those who wish they would disappear."

What are you talking about? Private residences? I don't think anyone's ever suggested that.

Or the notorious public housing complexes? I'd argue that bulldozing those is *exactly* the answer. The warehousing of the poor and uneducated in dysfunctional hell holes is exactly what's brought us to this point.

There should be plenty of subsidized housing units distributed throughout the region, and it should be well-integrated with middle-class residences. Not the immoral abomination (Carver Terrace, Potomac Gardens, etc...) we have today. Shut 'em down, bulldoze 'em, and let the residents live like the rest of society (i.e. like human beings).

"I submit that the long term solution is education."

I suggest you read "Whatever It Takes", just saying the magic 'e'-word is not going to get us anywhere.

Anonymous said...

Oboe, you can't "live like a human being" until you act like a human being. Many, many have gotten themselves out of the Projects successfully, but it was through personal responsibility and perseverence.

poo poo said...

ew.

just..... ew.

Anonymous said...

Interesting comments all.

Even in this market, these properties aren't cheap so I'm not suggesting anyone buy a "tenenment." Mine has been a good investment. I would, however, suggest that property owners make their units as "pretty" as they can and take a lot of care to select good tenants.

In talking to neighbors and officers last evening, I got the impression the victim and most likely the murderer(s) do not live on this street. I certainly do not know them.

As for some of the large, public housing units some blocks from here, consideration could be given to bulldoze them. People need places to live but should not coexist with filth and crime.

Finally, I agree. Education is the key. But while the DC system is improving, we should all get involved, set the example, and do what we can to improve our streets.

Anonymous said...

Calm down...Obie. A visit to a few high schools in DC and you will see that very little magic "E" is going on. If you think that bulldozing a public housing complex down and moving all of the people in to a "well integrated middle income neighborhood" without sufficient education will do the trick, I admire your optimism. Most people don't just "adjust" to their surroundings. They are a product of their environment (family life and neighborhood). Yes, many (including myself) have been able to pull ourselves up from what you would call a hell hole and shall I say "live like a human being..." I, like most people would rather not have public housing projects but most also don't want to be surrounded by Section 8 Housing either. All you have to do is go to an ANC meeting to know that. When the topic of discussion turns to a permit for housing for the needy, emotionally disabled, etc there's little, if any support in the room. Bottom line, not in my back yard is the flavor for the day. Education is not the magic word, it is the word.

oboe said...

If you think that bulldozing a public housing complex down and moving all of the people in to a "well integrated middle income neighborhood" without sufficient education will do the trick, I admire your optimism.

Take each individual family, give them a housing allowance of say $1000 a month. That's it. No dedicated Section 8 housing, no dedicated police force for DCHA, no midnight basketball B.S. No more paternalism.

The alternative is that "these people aren't ready to live in decent society" which is a pretty awful thing to say, and if true we need a lot *more* supervision, rather than less.

cowgirlinthesand said...

I'm sorry, did I read that correctly?

"Take each individual family, give them a housing allowance of say $1000 a month. That's it.".. "No more paternalism."

What is $1000/ month if not paternalism?

Also, for everyone suggesting that "integrating" these folks into suburban life is a good idea, I suggest a little EDUCATION of your own. You should start with Hanna Rosin's article in the Atlantic Montly "The American Murder Mystery" http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200807/memphis-crime.

oboe said...

Also, for everyone suggesting that "integrating" these folks into suburban life is a good idea, I suggest a little EDUCATION of your own.

Thanks for the link, but that's been kicking around for a while. While it would be nice if a definitive answer to all of life's mysteries could be found in the pages of a second-tier general interest monthly magazine, Rosin's flawed article wasn't exactly received with universal acclaim. See here, here, and here.


As far as the idea that integrated housing in the 'burbs is a bad thing for the 'burbs: DC's been carrying a disproportionate share of poverty and other social ills for more than a half-century (for reasons having to do with red-lining, and institutional racism). Maybe it's time that surrounding municipalities took on a fair share of the burden.

Conservatives in Virginia and Maryland *love* to throw stones at DC and its handling of various social ills, so I think it's time for them to walk the walk. Let's move Carver Terrace and Potomac Gardens to somewhere in Virginia, and let them show us how it's done.

I'm sure they'll have the situation well under control in no time, since--to hear them talk about it--the problem is always about Marion Barry, and woolly-headed liberalism.